Rd 16: Post Game Pessimism: Carlton vs Adelaide

[crashlander]

I am looking for a decent outcome. But it will be interesting to see how we handle things.

Not happy!

[blue4life]

The gap between us and the good sides is still huge, we need a massive draft/trade period at the end of the season.
Docherty would be further in front than Black Caviar in the B&F, he was outstanding again today.
Actually our back 6 is almost as good as any going around, but our midfield is thin and slow and our forward line non existent.

[PaulP]

The gap between us and the good sides is still huge, we need a massive draft/trade period at the end of the season.
Docherty would be further in front than Black Caviar in the B&F, he was outstanding again today.
Actually our back 6 is almost as good as any going around, but our midfield is thin and slow and our forward line non existent.

I would agree with this.

[DJC]

When will they announce that Casboult's report has been withdrawn and Hartigan charged with acting?

That should have cost us a goal but for a poor kick and Hartigan deserves to be punished and others deterred from cheating.

The useless pr1ck made out he was mortally wounded after a glancing blow to his shoulder.

[LP]

The gap between us and the good sides is still huge, we need a massive draft/trade period at the end of the season.
Docherty would be further in front than Black Caviar in the B&F, he was outstanding again today.
Actually our back 6 is almost as good as any going around, but our midfield is thin and slow and our forward line non existent.

Our back six are not as good as any going around because they cannot hit targets, and they are dragging Weitering down as each week goes by! We are turning Jacob Weitering into Jack Watts.

Our Mids get plenty of the ball, but most of them are panic merchants.

We have no natural forwards, we don't talk, we don't do the team things that make a forward line work. The biggest offender at the moment is Everitt, he's a liability because he takes opponents to the contest then hangs back leaving team-mates doing all the work. Three or four weeks running now he has played like he is 165cm not 195cm! Today I saw him take an opponent to the fall of the ball, then pull out leaving SOJ in his second game to deal with two opponents, Everitt needs to go! It's stuff like that which prevents Jaksch getting a game, it is not what they do it is what they don't do that counts!

I think 1AW might pull the pin this season, he is playing like he is looking for a highlight reel, he isn't doing the hard things like he use to do!

[blue4life]

Our back six are not as good as any going around because they cannot hit targets, and they are dragging Weitering down as each week goes by! We are turning Jacob Weitering into Jack Watts.

I couldn't disagree more.
The only weak link is Rowe, who is good overhead defensively but his ball handling under pressure is suspect.
Plowman is improving steadily and looking like a 100 game player, Weitering will be very good and Docherty, Tuohy and Simpson are as good as any group of running backs in the AFL.
Not forgetting Ciaran Byrne, who has shown more in his handful of games than many top 20 draft picks ever do.

The biggest offender at the moment is Everitt, he's a liability because he takes opponents to the contest then hangs back leaving team-mates doing all the work.

We need to remember that this is Everitt's third club and that we got him cheap, he's never been a gun player and never will be.

[Robblues]

I couldn't disagree more.
The only weak link is Rowe, who is good overhead defensively but his ball handling under pressure is suspect.
Plowman is improving steadily and looking like a 100 game player, Weitering will be very good and Docherty, Tuohy and Simpson are as good as any group of running backs in the AFL.
Not forgetting Ciaran Byrne, who has shown more in his handful of games than many top 20 draft picks ever do.

We need to remember that this is Everitt's third club and that we got him cheap, he's never been a gun player and never will be.

Very harsh on Rowe, he is the only player of height down there rest are 190-193 size, gets the best forward most weeks, though our running defenders show some quality , he is alone at his end most weeks. When we had a fit Jammo, he had experienced help, now Weitering , positive , but looks a little done in atm , Plowman, again serviceable and young , Simmo & 2e very good. Against teams like the crows with many tall forward option we / he will be up against it

[Gointocarlton]

The Bad
- Too many passengers - Walker, Everitt, Casboult, Sumner, Lamb, Thomas, SOS (partly excused because of his youth and abysmal delivery to the fwd line.
- We were terrible below our knees today, the number if times we fumbled trying to pick the ball up was ridiculous.
- Too many turnovers - we picked off Adelaide players at will, on two occasions, we kicked it straight to three Crows players.
- Kerridge, I have said before, is getting worse by the game.
- Gibbs may have had abit of the footy but they were the most useless possessions I have seen in a while.
- Krueser and Phillips had 4 marks between them. They were schooled today by Sauce.

The Good
- Army's first half
- SOS's first goal

Something has happened since we strung those wins together, either fatigue has caught up with our players or we have put the cue in the rack for the year (dont want to use the T word but...). I have seen two games live this year, this one and the Geelong game and there were two completely different teams/attitudes out there.

Oh well, just another bump in the road I guess. We were lucky with to come away with just a 10 goal loss, Adelaide were pretty terrible in parts. They should have well and truly reamed us.

Go Blues.

[Gointocarlton]

The gap between us and the good sides is still huge, we need a massive draft/trade period at the end of the season.
Docherty would be further in front than Black Caviar in the B&F, he was outstanding again today.
Actually our back 6 is almost as good as any going around, but our midfield is thin and slow and our forward line non existent.

Tick

[LP]

I couldn't disagree more.
The only weak link is Rowe, who is good overhead defensively but his ball handling under pressure is suspect.
Plowman is improving steadily and looking like a 100 game player, Weitering will be very good and Docherty, Tuohy and Simpson are as good as any group of running backs in the AFL.

They are very ordinary ball users, they can miss a target 30m away by 15m, and do so regularly. Effort A, effectiveness and efficiency C-, today Adelaide scored several times when our defenders distributed the ball directly to the opposition despite not having any physical contact from an opponent.

We need to remember that this is Everitt's third club and that we got him cheap, he's never been a gun player and never will be.

He doesn't get cut slack for being an experienced three club player, he is expected to deliver more than a newbie but he regularly delivers less.