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Brexit
#11
(06-24-2016, 07:37 AM)DJC link Wrote:The majority of Scots voted to remain.  Perhaps Scotland will secede from the Union and apply to join the EU  ???

I suspect other countries will be thinking seriously about their membership of the EU.

I'm not at all against the Poms leaving but the people voting for it were voting on immigration but have forgot about the economic implications . Long term it may work out but If the scots leave the UK watch the money run out of the U.K. .

It will be a blood bath.
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................
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#12
(06-24-2016, 08:08 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:I'm not at all against the Poms leaving but the people voting for it were voting on immigration but have forgot about the economic implications . Long term it may work out but If the scots leave the UK watch the money run out of the U.K. .

It will be a blood bath.

Yes, this takes the lid off some very serious simmering tensions in Britain and the situation could become very unstable. A worrying time for sure.
Reality always wins in the end.
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#13
.........and I fly out for London today!!
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#14
I'm guessing that buyer's remorse will be the order of the day over there.  The Leave camp is already walking away from core promises such as a promise emblazoned on a campaign bus that the annual money paid to the EU would be paid into the National Health Service.  After the vote concluded, Google was bombarded with searches in England on 'What is the EU?'  Truth is stranger than fiction.
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#15
But the polls said.....
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#16
... it was too close to call.
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#17
Maybe US voters will learn a valuable lesson about the consequences of dummy-spitting.  Then again, that would require some understanding of the world outside their borders.
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#18
(06-24-2016, 11:22 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:But the polls said.....

Polls had labour winning the last general election too.

Most of the polls, the talking heads, the cream of the British elite thought remain would win the day. Camaron and his cronies tried a scare campaign, while only leave had a coherent reason and narrative of sorts, no matter how unsavoury. With years of being treated like fools, seeing living standards stagnate, a financial services industry that has become a gigantic parasite enjoying huge bailouts and an establishment that has slashed public services, should we be surprised that so many people sought to give the establishment a bloody nose?

Now they and we all live with the consequences.
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#19
Nothing ever shrank to greatness. You grow or you decay.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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(06-24-2016, 11:53 PM)Vivian link Wrote:Polls had labour winning the last general election too.

Most of the polls, the talking heads, the cream of the British elite thought remain would win the day. Camaron and his cronies tried a scare campaign, while only leave had a coherent reason and narrative of sorts, no matter how unsavoury. With years of being treated like fools, seeing living standards stagnate, a financial services industry that has become a gigantic parasite enjoying huge bailouts and an establishment that has slashed public services, should we be surprised that so many people sought to give the establishment a bloody nose?

Now they and we all live with the consequences.

Spot on. To use a favourite word of the British elite, this is without doubt a case of "revenge of the oiks".

Poor old Boris too - if he gets the PM gig he going to become very acquainted with what it's like to be under pressure - not that I would have too much sympathy for him. It seems to me that he's been pretty much playing games so far. Now it gets real.

Also shows how far out of touch with every day folk and their fears and aspirations the Labour Party there had become.

Very valuable lessons to be learned for sure.
Reality always wins in the end.
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