Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[LanceRomance]

@ DJC

One of the British Anti-terrorist squads are reported to be now working with the WY Police on this case. It will be very interesting to see if the killer was working alone or was part of a larger plot/conspiracy. His actual motive is not yet clear but from my readings elsewhere the backdrop appears to be a high level of social deprivation in parts of the north of England and an antipathy to the EU, which the recent campaigning for the referendum may have inflamed - which is in  turn a big worry in itself. Jo Cox was apparently a very active campaigner for the Remain group.

I'm sure there wil be many wanting to declare britain first a terrorist organisation..
the implications of which are a little worrying considering a lot of these guys seem like fringedwelling troublemakers

[DJC]

@ DJC

One of the British Anti-terrorist squads are reported to be now working with the WY Police on this case. It will be very interesting to see if the killer was working alone or was part of a larger plot/conspiracy. His actual motive is not yet clear but from my readings elsewhere the backdrop appears to be a high level of social deprivation in parts of the north of England and an antipathy to the EU, which the recent campaigning for the referendum may have inflamed - which is in  turn a big worry in itself. Jo Cox was apparently a very active campaigner for the Remain group.

I really hope that he wasn't part of a larger plot/conspiracy 

[DJC]

The man charged with the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox has given his name in court as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain".
. . .

[The magistrate] suggested that a psychiatric report should be prepared, saying: "Bearing in mind the name he has just given, he ought to be seen by a psychiatrist."

Barking mad, terrorist, or a bit of both?

[Peter Brady]

Lunatic and Terrorist are not mutually exclusive terms.
In fact one is probably a pre-requisite for the other.

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http://www.theage.com.au/world/troubled-...pmip1.html

A long article if you want to take the time on it but a good profile of the life of the Orlando perpetrator Omar Mateen. Social disaffection seems to be a major factor but was he born psychopathic or did that develop as a result of his life experiences or a combination of both? He seems to have been acting alone but gaining inspiration from the terrorist activities of others such as Osama Bin Laden and ISIL. The activities of the USA in places like Iraq and Afghanistan also strongly influenced him. 

[Baggers]

Lunatic and Terrorist are not mutually exclusive terms.
In fact one is probably a pre-requisite for the other.

Agree.

This term 'terrorist' has gotten way out of control. It's now used by opportunistic politicians world wide to manipulate through fear.

Bottom line is that terrorist organisations are just groups of angry, cowardly, disenfranchised, disaffected, mentally unstable zealots. But I repeat myself, zealotry and mental instability are really one in the same.

[Mav]

Investigators Say Orlando Shooter Showed Few Warning Signs Of Radicalization, NPR.

Dina says that al-Qaida and ISIS-inspired attacks tend to follow a different pattern. She explains:

"We know that during the attack the gunman posted messages on Facebook saying he was doing this on behalf of ISIS. But officials have yet to find any of the precursors usually associated with radicalization. They've interviewed dozens of people who either knew him or had contact with Mateen.
"And they say that they've yet to find any indication that he became noticeably more religious, which is one of the indicators of radicalization. He still was going to the same mosque. The way he dressed didn't change. His relationship with his family didn't change in any way. And these are all typically warning signs that parents and friends and educators are told to look for if they're worried that someone they're close to is radicalizing."
She adds "this isn't science," but so far the signs of radicalization aren't there, which has led investigators to wonder whether the 29-year-old invoked the name of ISIS to garner more publicity for his deadly attack.

As with another article I linked, the key is that this guy was trying to make as big an impact as he could for his own egomaniacal purposes.  What better way to do this than to invoke the current boogeyman.  He could have yelled out Bloody Mary's name 3 times but that no longer carries any street cred.  Even 'Seig Heil!' wouldn't cut it when even Prince Harry frocks up as a Nazi for a dress-up party. 

HE wanted to cause terror, as did Julian Knight and Martin Bryant, but just like them it doesn't seem he had much in mind other than fame as the biggest, baddest mass-murderer that the US has produced.

Reminds me of The Wild One.  Girl dancing with one of the bikies: Hey Johnnie, what ya rebelling against?  Johnnie (Marlon Brando): Whaddya got?

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http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-electi...pmxl3.html

Trump running out of gas?

[madbluboy]

The polls were bad for Trump from the start but he defied them. People won't say that they support him but they just quietly tick that box when the time comes.

[LP]

The polls were bad for Trump from the start but he defied them. People won't say that they support him but they just quietly tick that box when the time comes.

You mean they are bigots and racists but won't publicly admit it?