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VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Frankston at Ikon
#71
Its not about rushing.

If SOS*2 is ready and performing as well as showing that he has the right stuff, he will get a game.

Thats all there is to it.

He kicks 4.2 and gets 20 disposals whilst taking 7 marks and that shows he is on his way to being ready.
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#72
(06-06-2016, 01:19 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Its not about rushing.

If SOS*2 is ready and performing as well as showing that he has the right stuff, he will get a game.

Thats all there is to it.

He kicks 4.2 and gets 20 disposals whilst taking 7 marks and that shows he is on his way to being ready.
With the young fellas (KPs), its probably a little more complicated than doing what you have suggested in the 2's. Its a massive step up to AFL level for them from a physicality point of view. Jack is listed as 191kg and 93kg, I found the weight a little surprising. I saw him fairly close up at the Hall of Fame thingy and again at Etihad a few weeks ago, he didnt look 93kg to me. In any case, if they think he is ready physically, fine. I'd be surprised though.
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#73
(06-06-2016, 02:05 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:With the young fellas (KPs), its probably a little more complicated than doing what you have suggested in the 2's. Its a massive step up to AFL level for them from a physicality point of view. Jack is listed as 191kg and 93kg, I found the weight a little surprising. I saw him fairly close up at the Hall of Fame thingy and again at Etihad a few weeks ago, he didnt look 93kg to me. In any case, if they think he is ready physically, fine. I'd be surprised though.

I would have though 83 kilos when drafted.
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#74
(06-06-2016, 02:05 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:With the young fellas (KPs), its probably a little more complicated than doing what you have suggested in the 2's. Its a massive step up to AFL level for them from a physicality point of view. Jack is listed as 191kg and 93kg, I found the weight a little surprising. I saw him fairly close up at the Hall of Fame thingy and again at Etihad a few weeks ago, he didnt look 93kg to me. In any case, if they think he is ready physically, fine. I'd be surprised though.

I understand that, but that all depends on what role we get him to play.

i.e.  3rd tall leading forward, or better yet, a similar role to what Jed Lamb is playing and then play Lamb through the middle of the field. 
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#75
VFL has developed bodies as well - weak argument. If he is good enough to play then he should play
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#76
(06-06-2016, 03:24 AM)pinot link Wrote:VFL has developed bodies as well - weak argument. If he is good enough to play then he should play

Absolutely.

Gives Everitt/Walker something to think about.....
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#77
(06-06-2016, 03:24 AM)pinot link Wrote:VFL has developed bodies as well - weak argument. If he is good enough to play then he should play

This is an even weaker argument for selecting him in the firsts.

Big, usually slower and incapable of the full game pressure you get at the top level.

I'm sure there's 16 year olds who are ready for the top level but there are 20 year olds who need more time.

He cant run out a game, where do we play him?

The club has got every one of these calls right so far so I'll leave it to the experts.
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#78
(06-06-2016, 03:06 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:I would have though 83 kilos when drafted.

His draft profile says 83kg and there's no way he has put on 10kg in 6 months.  He looks closer to 73kg, wringing wet!

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#79
(06-06-2016, 02:05 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:With the young fellas (KPs), its probably a little more complicated than doing what you have suggested in the 2's. Its a massive step up to AFL level for them from a physicality point of view. Jack is listed as 191kg and 93kg, I found the weight a little surprising. I saw him fairly close up at the Hall of Fame thingy and again at Etihad a few weeks ago, he didnt look 93kg to me. In any case, if they think he is ready physically, fine. I'd be surprised though.

93kg? Really? Certainly looks bigger than when we drafted him but 93 surprises me.

Anyway, he's as ok as anyone to have a crack in the seniors.
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#80
(06-06-2016, 03:47 AM)DJC link Wrote:His draft profile says 83kg and there's no way he has put on 10kg in 6 months.  He looks closer to 73kg, wringing wet!
Dont shoot the messenger kiddies

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profi...k-silvagni
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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