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Hey, has anyone had a read of these two articles by Tony DeBolfo over on the CFC site ?
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-05...ics-part-1
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-05...ics-part-2
For me, this was a complete revelation, I had never heard this story before ! What an unbelievable future this would have meant for Princes Park & the club if this had indeed come to fruition, and would have if not, it appears, for the pig headedness & very questionable political interference of the then Victorian premier, Mr Cain.
Imagine another 80 000+ seat stadium located at Princes Park from 1956 ?
The MCG would have ceased to have a hold over the VFL/AFL in any way
Waverley might never have been built
Docklands might not even exist
Carlton's home ground & financial future would have been secured for a very long time
What a missed chance !
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You missed one.
Imagine what this would have meant for Fitzroy.
They might have been able to stay financially viable via a ground sharing agreement.
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(05-24-2016, 04:26 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:You missed one.
Imagine what this would have meant for Fitzroy.
They might have been able to stay financially viable via a ground sharing agreement.
Far out, yeah....there's probably a whole heap of could have beens. I mean the VFL & AFL were desperate enough to rid themselves of being held at gunpoint by the MCG, that they built 2 stadiums of their own !
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Yeah definately. Even North Melbourne would have been keen as to ground share with us.
No crappy stadium deals at SHittyhad either.
Western Bulldogs actually used PP for their home ground in the mid to late 90's.
Sliding doors moments for sure.
Not meant to be and on the other hand, at very least we can write our own destiny so to speak.
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(05-24-2016, 04:38 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yeah definately. Even North Melbourne would have been keen as to ground share with us.
No crappy stadium deals at craptyhad either.
Western Bulldogs actually used PP for their home ground in the mid to late 90's.
Not to mention bloody Hawthorn !
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Intrestingly, Waverley was initially planned as a 157 000 capacity stadium to be built in stages & it was another Victorian Labor Government in the early 80s that stymied the promised construction of a railway line out there & the final expansion of Waverley to a seating capacity of over 100 000 ......
"Key government figures, including premier John Cain, were pro-MCC supporters and did not want the biggest game of the year moved from the MCG"
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-157...57f3985723
So, John Cain senior killed off the Princes Park development with his pro MCC bias.
John Cain junior killed off Waverleys development with his pro MCC bias.
what a great legacy of political interference from one family.....
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(05-25-2016, 12:29 AM)malo link Wrote:Intrestingly, Waverley was initially planned as a 157 000 capacity stadium to be built in stages & it was another Victorian Labor Government in the early 80s that stymied the promised construction of a railway line out there & the final expansion of Waverley to a seating capacity of over 100 000 ......
"Key government figures, including premier John Cain, were pro-MCC supporters and did not want the biggest game of the year moved from the MCG"
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-157...57f3985723
So, John Cain senior killed off the Princes Park development with his pro MCC bias.
John Cain junior killed off Waverleys development with his pro MCC bias.
what a great legacy of political interference from one family.....
Yes I remember the discussions at the time were of the "either, or" type when they should have been along the lines of how the two stadiums could complement each other. Benefit of hindsight I guess but at the same time I never enjoyed Waverley even though I live quite close by in those days.
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