Rd 9: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

[Baggers]

I really think that this time last year that game would have been a 100+ point loss for us. Despite Goldstein giving their mids an armchair ride our boys never threw in the towel. And this time last year, personnel wise, we probably would have fielded a stronger side.

There were some obvious positives. The continued development of Byrne... the bloke has only played about 8 games FFS!!! Sumner will only improve, especially when he gets a proper pre season. Docherty as player and leader continues to grow. Weitering slotted back in beautifully and showed no tentative actions re his shoulder. Plowman continues to improve....

We know we have some real triers but they're just not up to it. Hopefully, this time next year blokes who just can't break into the senior side will include, Walker, Armfield, Everitt, Graham, Jamison, Jones, Lamb, Rowe, White etc...

[cookie2]

Question from the game - who played on Petrie? Was it Simon White? I forgot to take note of this match-up when I was at the game. I know Plowman started on Brown & got murdered early, but not sure if White played on Petrie or Waite.

I think there were certainly changes rung but when I noticed I think it was Plowman on Waite, Weitering on Brown and White on Petrie, who did not seem to be figuring much at that time. Rowe moved back later in the game also.

[Brettie]

Thanks Cookie - I was almost sure it was White on Petrie, but just wanted to be backed-up on that. In that case, White played an excellent game it has to be said.

Anyone else disappointed in our midfield setup for centre bounces? Surely we had to play tight man-on-man, but I did not see this tactic at any stage & thought our coaches got it horribly wrong in that regard. They knew Goldstein would have free reign at the centre bounces, but I don't think Bolton & co. hatched a good enough plan to counter that.....thought it was Bolton's biggest fail so far this year (not the result, but the inability to formulate a tactic to counter a dominant opposing ruckman).

[cimm1979]

Question from the game - who played on Petrie? Was it Simon White? I forgot to take note of this match-up when I was at the game. I know Plowman started on Brown & got murdered early, but not sure if White played on Petrie or Waite.

Watching a fair bit of David Kings (yes, I know) stuff recently and he shows a lot of forward and back set ups .

Last night he showed one where the three forwards lined up on the three backs but as the ball was bounced in the centre the three backs held a v shape defensive structure from CHF but the forwards ran off and did what they liked, even swapping opponents.

It wasn't out game but I don't think players actually play on opponent often anymore as a single strategy. The Swap and change depending on what roles each other has and the forwards try to get the matchups they want.

Would love to be in on some of those meetings.



I'd love to sit in on A pre-game meeting

[Thryleon]

Thanks Cookie - I was almost sure it was White on Petrie, but just wanted to be backed-up on that. In that case, White played an excellent game it has to be said.

Anyone else disappointed in our midfield setup for centre bounces? Surely we had to play tight man-on-man, but I did not see this tactic at any stage & thought our coaches got it horribly wrong in that regard. They knew Goldstein would have free reign at the centre bounces, but I don't think Bolton & co. hatched a good enough plan to counter that.....thought it was Bolton's biggest fail so far this year (not the result, but the inability to formulate a tactic to counter a dominant opposing ruckman).

It might simply be that we are not playing man on man anywhere anymore and its all about how the group functions rather than the particular matchup.

[blueboys_1]

It might simply be that we are not playing man on man anywhere anymore and its all about how the group functions rather than the particular matchup.

Bolts and the players have said many times that it team defence so they are sticking to the game plan. Time will tell if the personal that we currently have can execute the plan or if there are tweaks that need to be made along the way.

[Amers]

Thanks Cookie - I was almost sure it was White on Petrie, but just wanted to be backed-up on that. In that case, White played an excellent game it has to be said.

Anyone else disappointed in our midfield setup for centre bounces? Surely we had to play tight man-on-man, but I did not see this tactic at any stage & thought our coaches got it horribly wrong in that regard. They knew Goldstein would have free reign at the centre bounces, but I don't think Bolton & co. hatched a good enough plan to counter that.....thought it was Bolton's biggest fail so far this year (not the result, but the inability to formulate a tactic to counter a dominant opposing ruckman).

They also played a loose man in defense all night, giving us an extra player further up the ground, and we didn't make very good use of that either!

[flyboy77]

Thanks Cookie - I was almost sure it was White on Petrie, but just wanted to be backed-up on that. In that case, White played an excellent game it has to be said.

Anyone else disappointed in our midfield setup for centre bounces? Surely we had to play tight man-on-man, but I did not see this tactic at any stage & thought our coaches got it horribly wrong in that regard. They knew Goldstein would have free reign at the centre bounces, but I don't think Bolton & co. hatched a good enough plan to counter that.....thought it was Bolton's biggest fail so far this year (not the result, but the inability to formulate a tactic to counter a dominant opposing ruckman).

it has become a joke. Who is the midfield coach?

[PaulP]

it has become a joke. Who is the midfield coach?

Tim Clarke - Midfield
John Barker - stoppages

[mina1]

team defence should start in our fwd line,easy turnover cause no structure going fwd so the opp just run it out ,think all the easy goals nth got and even collingwood game