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Rd 8: Post Game Euphoria!: Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Bryce Gibbs roars into AFLCPA top 10

AFLCA leaderboard
43 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel) (26)
39 Joel Selwood (Geel) (28)
37 Todd Goldstein (NM)  (28)
37 Jack Viney (Melb)  (22)
36 Tom Lynch (GC)  (23)
34 Luke Parker (Syd)  (23)
32 Rory Sloane (Adel)  (26)
30 Bryce Gibbs (Carl) (27)
30 Dan Hannebery (Syd) )26)
29 Lance Franklin (Syd)  (29)

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Gibbs AFLCPA votes

Man, he's in very classy company - gotta love that
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Keeping together is progress.
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It's interesting that there has been a lot of discussion on our rebuild and the associated need to get a solid defence into place on which we could then build. This has started in a very promising way with Weitering and Plowman coming in and together with Sam Rowe currently identified as an important member. Jamo remember  has been really struggling

I'm a bit puzzled therefore that we now want to start unraveling and unsettling it by moving Sam elsewhere at the first sight of injuries. As Murph said today, we are currently more concerned with building for the future and playing to and perfecting our system? Surely a major disruption such as this to our defence to cover injuries elsewhere would run counter to that objective?

We need to try and cover our injuries first and foremost from whatever depth we have available in those areas not rob areas where we seem to have established something promising. Sam's exploits at his previous clubs I say are not that important to us atm as we really need him to continue in the role he is currently performing for us. The need we had for him to move on Sun was an emergency one-off rather than something we necessarily want to do on an on going basis.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(05-16-2016, 12:05 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:It's interesting that there has been a lot of discussion on our rebuild and the associated need to get a solid defence into place on which we could then build. This has started in a very promising way with Weitering and Plowman coming in and together with Sam Rowe currently identified as an important member. Jamo remember  has been really struggling

I'm a bit puzzled therefore that we now want to start unraveling and unsettling it by moving Sam elsewhere at the first sight of injuries. As Murph said today, we are currently more concerned with building for the future and playing to and perfecting our system? Surely a major disruption such as this to our defence to cover injuries elsewhere would run counter to that objective?

We need to try and cover our injuries first and foremost from whatever depth we have available in those areas not rob areas where we seem to have established something promising. Sam's exploits at his previous clubs I say are not that important to us atm as we really need him to continue in the role he is currently performing for us. The need we had for him to move on Sun was an emergency one-off rather than something we necessarily want to do on an on going basis.

If our many players playing many roles system is on track we can start either Jaksch or Rowe forward or back, and it shouldn't matter.

That's if we don't need Rowe to ruck.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(05-16-2016, 11:46 AM)pinot link Wrote:Bryce Gibbs roars into AFLCPA top 10

AFLCA leaderboard
43 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel) (26)
39 Joel Selwood (Geel) (28)
37 Todd Goldstein (NM)  (28)
37 Jack Viney (Melb)  (22)
36 Tom Lynch (GC)  (23)
34 Luke Parker (Syd)  (23)
32 Rory Sloane (Adel)  (26)
30 Bryce Gibbs (Carl) (27)
30 Dan Hannebery (Syd) )26)
29 Lance Franklin (Syd)  (29)

It's a shame Goldy's in there, now that we have no real ruckmen. He should have a day out.
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(05-16-2016, 12:22 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:If our many players playing many roles system is on track we can start either Jaksch or Rowe forward or back, and it shouldn't matter.

That's if we don't need Rowe to ruck.

Big if. Most of what I hear says that it is still very much a WIP.

Rowe may well ultimately HAVE to ruck but as I said we shouldn't be jumping to that solution without looking at other options first. Get creative as BB is so fond of saying.  Wink
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Rowe is a lot stronger and a lot more experienced than the last time he was up forward. All that time down back using his body to hold out his opponent and take a simple mark there in the last qtr just came naturally to him. It was like he marked it and then realised what he'd just done.

Only a snapshot but such a positive sign. Weitering, Plowman, Simpson, Docherty, Byrne & Touhy in the backline might look a bit small but leaves Rowe to fill in up forward while Cas is out.
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(05-16-2016, 12:33 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Big if. Most of what I hear says that it is still very much a WIP.

Rowe may well ultimately HAVE to ruck but as I said we shouldn't be jumping to that solution without looking at other options first. Get creative as BB is so fond of saying.  Wink

Of course Cookie, but occasionally sometimes these things are forced onto you.

The true test of it is how everyone responds to it, not necessarily what is done to mitigate things.

Provided everyone gains something from the exercise, then no matter how many times we move players around, its simply an effort of ongoing education and developement.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(05-16-2016, 12:43 PM)jeza link Wrote:Rowe is a lot stronger and a lot more experienced than the last time he was up forward. All that time down back using his body to hold out his opponent and take a simple mark there in the last qtr just came naturally to him. It was like he marked it and then realised what he'd just done.

Only a snapshot but such a positive sign. Weitering, Plowman, Simpson, Docherty, Byrne & Touhy in the backline might look a bit small but leaves Rowe to fill in up forward while Cas is out.

You could put Jaksch in defence too. Or White.
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(05-16-2016, 12:05 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:It's interesting that there has been a lot of discussion on our rebuild and the associated need to get a solid defence into place on which we could then build. This has started in a very promising way with Weitering and Plowman coming in and together with Sam Rowe currently identified as an important member. Jamo remember  has been really struggling

I'm a bit puzzled therefore that we now want to start unraveling and unsettling it by moving Sam elsewhere at the first sight of injuries. As Murph said today, we are currently more concerned with building for the future and playing to and perfecting our system? Surely a major disruption such as this to our defence to cover injuries elsewhere would run counter to that objective?

We need to try and cover our injuries first and foremost from whatever depth we have available in those areas not rob areas where we seem to have established something promising. Sam's exploits at his previous clubs I say are not that important to us atm as we really need him to continue in the role he is currently performing for us. The need we had for him to move on Sun was an emergency one-off rather than something we necessarily want to do on an on going basis.

Bolton is very strong on players being able to play more than one role and I suspect that using Rowe to cover for Casboult could be more than just an in-game move.  The fact that it worked so well will have Bolton thinking seriously about it for the next few weeks, particularly with Kreuzer and Casboult out.

While I would prefer to see Rowe in defence, he may find the North forwards a little too agile and could be better value as a key forward and back-up ruckman.  We certainly don't have players in the NBs demanding a game as a key forward, key defender and/or ruckman.
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