Rd 2: Carlton vs. Sydney: Post Game Passion

[jeza]

Seens like Gibbs is getting a whack and Murphy a bit of a pass.

They were both as bad as each other. Everything they touched turned to poop basically.

And Cripps couldn't get near it. And everyone else had pretty down games.

BB was good despit corky which was really encouraging. Hope he doesn't miss next week.

Hope for a swift turnaround next week from the lot of them.

Was SOSOS emergency?  Dropped out of the VFL match.

[Gointocarlton]

Simmo no on baller

So I love Simmo, one of my all time fave CFC players. I saw him on Papley yesterday, a 2 game rookie made a 243 gamer look like a dill on least couple of occasions. I do not accept this in any way shape of form, I expect more from the experienced fellas. We've sacked 2 coaches now on these blokes watch, I'm starting to wonder.

[Juddkreuzer]

I'm a bit in two minds about Gibbs.

He has that rare ability to do things very easily and look like he has a lot of time...That sometimes gives the impression that he is going half paced.

At the same time I'm struggling to think of times when a match has turned against us and Gibbs has been instrumental in bringing us back into the game.

You've summed up my feelings to Gibbs pretty well their Lods. I wonder how he would be perceived if at a stoppage he was constantly grabbing at his shorts and sucking in some big air a la Judd. He would have to be in the top 2 or 3 most reliable kicks for goal at the club be that a set shot or in play, but he doesn't appear to have the ability to grab the game by the throat. Judd could do that, so could Kouta and Diesel. Cripps looks the next most likely while Gibbs and Murph despite their #1 draft pick status appear destined to never be the complete package.

[Juddkreuzer]

So I love Simmo, one of my all time fave CFC players. I saw him on Papley yesterday, a 2 game rookie made a 243 gamer look like a dill on least couple of occasions. I do not accept this in any way shape of form, I expect more from the experienced fellas. We've sacked 2 coaches now on these blokes watch, I'm starting to wonder.

I'm a massive Simmo fan, but even after the Richmond game I was starting to think that perhaps time is catching up with him. Making too many unsimmo like mistakes. Hope I'm proven wrong because he has been a warrior for our club during these dark times.

[LP]

I'm a bit in two minds about Gibbs.

He has that rare ability to do things very easily and look like he has a lot of time...That sometimes gives the impression that he is going half paced.

At the same time I'm struggling to think of times when a match has turned against us and Gibbs has been instrumental in bringing us back into the game.

That contrasts heavily that with memories of The Hyphen!

[DJC]

Gibbs has played under Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse, Barker and now Bolton and to the best of my recollection has never been dropped.
So unless all of those coaches, two of whom were multiple Premiership coaches, are willing to tolerate uncommitted players I think that the perception around Gibbs doesn't reflect the reality.

What would they know B4L?

Not only has Gibbs never been dropped but each of those coaches, except perhaps Barker, have singled Gibbs out for high praise.  I'm not sure what it is about Gibbs that raises the ire of some supporters but I suspect that I may have stumbled across it during the Swans NAB game.  A supporter seated not far from me was critical of Gibbs throughout the game and, after one passage of play that we stuffed up, launched into a tirade of abuse about how weak Gibbs was; he was actually on the interchange bench at the time  :

Supporters see what they want to see, coaches see what they are paid to see.

[Juddkreuzer]

I'm not sure what it is about Gibbs that raises the ire of some supporters but I suspect that I may have stumbled across it during the Swans NAB game.  A supporter seated not far from me was critical of Gibbs throughout the game and, after one passage of play that we stuffed up, launched into a tirade of abuse about how weak Gibbs was; he was actually on the interchange bench at the time  :

;D ;D ;D
Made my night DJ. I think every team has these sort of supporters.

[LP]

What would they know B4L?

Not only has Gibbs never been dropped but each of those coaches, except perhaps Barker, have singled Gibbs out for high praise.  I'm not sure what it is about Gibbs that raises the ire of some supporters but I suspect that I may have stumbled across it during the Swans NAB game.  A supporter seated not far from me was critical of Gibbs throughout the game and, after one passage of play that we stuffed up, launched into a tirade of abuse about how weak Gibbs was; he was actually on the interchange bench at the time  :

Supporters see what they want to see, coaches see what they are paid to see.

Anyone who watches at the ground and isn't stuck ball watching will see Gibbs sorting out his opponent 9 out of 10 times well before the ball or the TV cameras arrive, but on TV it looks like another soft uncontested possession!

[Vivian]

As far as 10 goal losses go, there were a few good things. Weitering showed that he will, barring injury play most games this year. Amazing poise and ability for such a young fellow.

Curnow's debut showed plenty of promise. He worked hard and was rewarded with his first goal. He too has a bright future. I hope for his sake he can put in a few games, then go back and work hard in the seconds without too many expectations. We load up a lot of hope on very young players sometimes.

Other good efforts were had from kerridge, cripps, Boekhorst. Thomas, as others had mentioned had his best game in blue. That was a fine mark in front of franklin.

It was good to see the team keep working, despite being thumped. They also kept taking a few risks by seeking to centre the ball. We also played franklin well, with defenders swapping as franklin moved up and down the ground.

I dont get all the potting of Murphy and Gibbs. Both have been stalwarts in a shambles of a club for a long time and this takes its toll. Both were thrown in the deep end in their first season as teenagers and have had to battle in a poor environment replete with poor standards and low expectations. Neither have enjoyed the benefits of good leadership, including Judd, whose performance as captain escaped scrutiny relative to the criticism heaped upon others. They both have their limitations, but most of all have struggled with the burden that a number 1 pick creates. Neither of them had good games, but they are the best we have for now and will bounce back.

Having a style of play highly dependent upon fast accurate ball movement is going to challenge many players, and mistakes are going to happen. Sides like sydney are going to capitalise as they did. They looked awfully strong in the middle, and once they got it forward scored heavily.

And touhy proved the old theory that a feature in the paper before the game leads to a bad performance.

[DJC]

;D ;D ;D
Made my night DJ. I think every team has these sort of supporters.

I used to sit near a bloke at the G who had one of those really grating voices and he would spend the entire game paying out on every Carlton player.  One of the rough looking blokes in front of me finally had enough and gave him an earful along the lines, "There are all trying their hardest and all you can do is criticise.  Shut the f**k up!"  He walked out and I never saw him again