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2016 Ladder - Going Early
#31
(12-29-2015, 12:24 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:I think you'll find Lyon has already answered your question, and most would agree. Wink

Re winning a flag, I said I would rather be up there than down the bottom. YOU then spoke about winning a flag which was not part of my statement. Quite simply, I would rather be where North are as opposed to where we are and most people pay out on them but they run a very successful operation down there and I for one am quite envious. Just because some don't see them as serious challengers does not mean they are not trying to seriously challenge.

I'm sure they are trying to challenge, as I said before you're either aiming for a flag or trying to rebuild for one. I find it odd that you are envious of North, I'm envious of Hawthorn and before them Sydney and Geelong.

When you look at North's age demographic, you would expect half of their best players to be retire by the end of 2017. Ages this year; Harvey 38, Petrie 34, Firrito Waite 33, Dal Santo 32, Wells 31, Thompson Gibson 30, Swallow Thomas 29. All of these player are 30 or over at the end of 2017. Goldstein, Hansen and Higgins will all be turning 30 leaving Ziebell and Cunnington turning 27 and Brown Atley and Jacobs turning 26 in 2018 and right in their best years of their career, due to Norths high-ish finishes and win now mentality, their list depth is not much.

So why in two years time would their younger guns want to stay there? I can see North losing players to free agency, especially if they don't get a flag this season, how many teams would want a 27 yo Cunnington or Ziebell to give their up and coming side some real grunt, or a 26yo Brown as a focal point or the speed of a 26 yo Atley coming off half back?

To me North is not in a great position, they are very old, short down back and a bit one way when the game is against them. I just can't see them doing any good, and when they go down the bottom in the not too distant future, lets see if they have 30,000 members by Christmas off a wooden spoon.
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#32
Of course they will bottom out, but they have been up there and had a decent crack and in today's game, that is some form of success.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!
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#33
Most has essendon last anyway but for those that didn't a quick edit may be warranted
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#34
(01-13-2016, 07:17 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Most has essendon last anyway but for those that didn't a quick edit may be warranted

Reckon they will be gunning for the No 1 pick and happy to finish last.....
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#35
(01-13-2016, 08:33 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon they will be gunning for the No 1 pick and happy to finish last.....

Whilst I want pick 1, I reckon even SOS will be happy to get number 2 if it delivers Essendon a spoon.
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#36
(01-13-2016, 09:26 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Whilst I want pick 1, I reckon even SOS will be happy to get number 2 if it delivers Essendon a spoon.
Maybe we can ask for a priority pick again. If we finish 17th and the only team below us are the Drug Cheats, we should be a certainty.
Live Long and Prosper!
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#37
The idea that their punishment for cheating so disables them that they finish last... and then are rewarded with a no. 1 pick seems absolutely preposterous. This will have to be looked at.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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#38
(01-13-2016, 11:18 AM)Baggers link Wrote:The idea that their punishment for cheating so disables them that they finish last... and then are rewarded with a no. 1 pick seems absolutely preposterous. This will have to be looked at.

Mate from what I can gather, they will be getting priority picks as well. #1 and #2 along with #19 and #20. Gill is an absolute dumb fork.
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#39
(01-13-2016, 08:33 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon they will be gunning for the No 1 pick and happy to finish last.....

Yes, they will be in rebuild mode and will try to make some future positives out of this for sure - mad if they don't especially if they can con some special concessions out of the AFL. Be interesting to see what the other clubs might have to say though - possible cr@pstorm on the horizon.
Reality always wins in the end.
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#40
(01-13-2016, 11:21 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Mate from what I can gather, they will be getting priority picks as well. #1 and #2 along with #19 and #20. Gill is an absolute dumb fork.
I can't see Essendon getting this: it is just too raw. We have a realistic chance of getting a PP. For Essendon to get one would not be acceptable to anyone else.
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