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No to co-captains can't stand that stuff personally.
Give it to Simpson, already the real leader out there and deserves it also. Has it for a year or two and then off to Cripps or Weitering whoever is right at the time.
At least have a vote again, if Murphy is made captain again by a player vote I would seriously be gob smacked but fair enough.
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Murphy is a good player and all that but isn't a very good captain in my view.
He get's beaten up physically on the field. Now seems like a pretty good time to sort this out.
Kreuzer is the man... straight-lines the ball, always gives 100%. Never gives up.
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(12-01-2015, 02:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:This is just my own personal view but I reckon a "Judd" type leader is exactly what we need with this new group. Firstly, by Judd like, I mean one who lets his footy do the talking. He brought players with him through his behavior and actions during the week and on game day. I think the new crop that has been brought in seem to be self motivated and professional enough that they dont need the Johnathan Brown type of booming voice constantly in their ears. They all seem talented and driven enough to warrant and respond best to the Judd style of leadership. This is why I reckon if Murphy just focuses on footy again and can get back to the way we all know he can play, he will bring these guys with him ala Judd. Hope this makes sense.
It makes sense. Your basically saying actions speak louder than words and if Murphy can lead by example with his actions, he doesn't need to say much to inspire players to perform. I hope we have a skipper picked over the next few seasons that will help us get some score on the board with victories. Kreuzer doesn't sound like a bad option if he can stay on the park with maybe Simpson as VC. If Murphy doesn't get the gig.
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(12-01-2015, 10:34 AM)Mantis link Wrote:It makes sense. Your basically saying actions speak louder than words and if Murphy can lead by example with his actions, he doesn't need to say much to inspire players to perform. I hope we have a skipper picked over the next few seasons that will help us get some score on the board with victories. Kreuzer doesn't sound like a bad option if he can stay on the park with maybe Simpson as VC. If Murphy doesn't get the gig.
In fact, Murphy is a quite vocal leader on and off the field, but in a very measured way. The players seem to respond well to him if the game he was miked up in is any guide. I don't think Kreuzer would have the same ability to communicate with team mates, but you never know.
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Stick with Murph, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone like 2E got the gig.
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(12-01-2015, 11:13 AM)DJC link Wrote:In fact, Murphy is a quite vocal leader on and off the field, but in a very measured way. The players seem to respond well to him if the game he was miked up in is any guide. I don't think Kreuzer would have the same ability to communicate with team mates, but you never know.
I am not an expert either way DJC. I just throw it out there based on what I have heard or seen. Humphrey Bear says very little but shows heaps in terms of intensity. That is the only reason why I voted how I did in this circumstance. Less said and more action. I am not correct very often though.
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(12-01-2015, 01:17 PM)Mantis link Wrote:I am not an expert either way DJC. I just throw it out there based on what I have heard or seen. Humphrey Bear says very little but shows heaps in terms of intensity. That is the only reason why I voted how I did in this circumstance. Less said and more action. I am not correct very often though.
I'm sure that the players and coaches now a lot more about who the best leaders are than we do Mantis. For all we know, Murphy may have confided in Bolton that he's not happy in the role and Kreuzer could well be the players' choice.
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From what BB has been saying recently he is very actively evaluating what leadership qualities are present at the club. He no doubt knows exactly what he's looking for and what he needs to instill. I'm pretty confident we'll have a decent option in place for next year. As I've previously posted, I think it will be Murph (if he wants it) but I don't pretend to know all of the factors at play.
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(12-02-2015, 12:11 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:From what BB has been saying recently he is very actively evaluating what leadership qualities are present at the club. He no doubt knows exactly what he's looking for and what he needs to instill. I'm pretty confident we'll have a decent option in place for next year. As I've previously posted, I think it will be Murph (if he wants it) but I don't pretend to know all of the factors at play.
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