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AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane
So I watched the first half up to our first goal
qtr time
Bris 19 I50s to Carl 8
Bris 5.5.35 to Carl 0.0.0
at the first Carl goal by Cripps
Bris 29 I50s to Carl 20
Bris 9.6.60 to Carl 1.0.6
It was hard to watch but I just wanted to know
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(09-09-2024, 01:28 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:So I watched the first half up to our first goal
qtr time
Bris 19 I50s to Carl 8
Bris 5.5.35 to Carl 0.0.0
at the first Carl goal by Cripps
Bris 29 I50s to Carl 20
Bris 9.6.60 to Carl 1.0.6
It was hard to watch but I just wanted to know

Inside 50's ended up even 56-56
Don't go back and torture yourself again Big Grin  but

An interesting one or two from that 60-0 time would be ...
How many times in that period the ball entering our 50 was marked by a Brisbane player.
How many times first contact from our inside 50 was a Brisbane player who then saw it out of the 50
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I50 is a deceptive stat, it can mean barely a step inside the arc on the boundary line or in the corridor at the top of the goalsquare.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(09-09-2024, 07:22 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:????
And just on players returning from injury, look at Papley's stats, 2 goals, 4 scores assists in the last qtr, elite.
If you want it enough you'll get, they (the midfield especially early) just didn't want it.
That's one and didn't miss alot with repeat injuries.Swans weren't bringing back multiple half fit, underdone players and leaving other out of form ones in. We should have played our fittest possible side. Blokes we had weren't fit enough to get close to anything when the game was hot. Young blokes would have been able too, applied a bit of pressure rather than allowing the likes Zorko to do what he wanted. Makes a huge difference. Many not have won but would not have been 60-0 either.  Would have made them work for it a little more.

Only.the fittest succeed in finals. Proven.for over 100 years.As thry say, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 80% fit gives 20% output.

This season was just a total f up by all concerned at the top from the fitness bloke to.poor team selection.
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(09-09-2024, 02:00 PM)Lods link Wrote:Inside 50's ended up even 56-56
Don't go back and torture yourself again Big Grin  but

An interesting one or two from that 60-0 time would be ...
How many times in that period the ball entering our 50 was marked by a Brisbane player.
How many times first contact from our inside 50 was a Brisbane player who then saw it out of the 50
I made notes on everyone, Ill post tonight after work
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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Inside 50 stats....

Q1.
8-16 Lions

Q2
16-12 blues

1st half
24-28 Lions

Q3
19-11 blues

Q4
13-15 lions

2nd half
32-26 blues

Total
56-56

'Shots at goal accuracy' (should be i50 conversion)
20 / 56 = 35.7% blues
33 / 56 = 58.9% lions


All stats from afl app
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Inside 50s mean nothing if the ball comes back out faster than it went in.......

Our biggest weakness is getting caught on the slingshot, and it happens more times than I care to remember.

The level of F50 pressure is pathetic - only Fogarty and sometimes Owies actually give anything in this area.  The rest trot around and admire the opposition defenders' rebounding skills.  The defensive unit must be pulling their hair out when they see that.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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(09-09-2024, 10:06 PM)tonyo link Wrote:Inside 50s mean nothing if the ball comes back out faster than it went in.......

Our biggest weakness is getting caught on the slingshot, and it happens more times than I care to remember.

The level of F50 pressure is pathetic - only Fogarty and sometimes Owies actually give anything in this area.  The rest trot around and admire the opposition defenders' rebounding skills.  The defensive unit must be pulling their hair out when they see that.

That’s all well and good but if you’re a forward and the ball is delivered NOT to your advantage but to your DISADVANTAGE then you are out of position and cannot impact the contest…
That’s why intercept marks hurt so much
Let’s go BIG !
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(09-09-2024, 10:06 PM)tonyo link Wrote:Inside 50s mean nothing if the ball comes back out faster than it went in.......

Yep
To reference my old mate Alex in a "Clockwork Orange"...

It's the old "in-out" we have no time for. Smile  Big Grin
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(09-09-2024, 10:34 PM)northernblue date Wrote:That’s all well and good but if you’re a forward and the ball is delivered NOT to your advantage but to your DISADVANTAGE then you are out of position and cannot impact the contest…
That’s why intercept marks hurt so much
I would agree with that, but watch how hard most of our forwards chase - most barely get out of a trot.  No wonder the opposition can set up such great D50 rebounds - they have plenty of time and space to work out their next move.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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