AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

[Gointocarlton]

If that was true then Voss should clear out his desk.

If that was true, Russell would have walked straight away.

[laj]

Shakin is obviously right with his source. Good asit gets. I do believe the stuff that says training was picked up 6 weeks ago preparing for finals. It has obviously damaged the players rather than preparing them. Seems Russell may have told Voss they are not right and was ignored. Voss has continued to play half fit, out of form players while Russell has rogered us for 6 years.

All my opinion.

[PaulP]

There's something about all this simplistic finger pointing that just doesn't add up. When you consider the number of stakeholders involved, it's just can't be that cut and dried, at least if my knowledge of human behaviour is anything to go by.

[pinot]

Need a win this weekend like our life depends on it - more so to settle everyone down after a long string of bad luck

[Micky0]

There's something about all this simplistic finger pointing that just doesn't add up. When you consider the number of stakeholders involved, it's just can't be that cut and dried, at least if my knowledge of human behaviour is anything to go by.

Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….

[ElwoodBlues1]

Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….

The Hewett/Kennedy scenario has been ridiculous and cost us imo, Cerra is now another high risk injury prone player and will need to be managed from now on and wont ever play a full season.

[PaulP]

Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….

Maybe, but I'd still like a clear read on the interactions between the various stakeholders in these situations. What if the player declares they are tip top, smashes all the fitness tests etc., what then ? Do they still get held back ? How does one distinguish between a "niggle" and a genuine injury, when the player appears to be moving freely and without pain ? I can't imagine these issues are just black and white.

[pinot]

Its up to the player whether he can play - its also up to the player to prepare correctly and not be lazy.

If he can run, jump, twist, tackle and kick then he is fit to play

[kruddler]

Maybe, but I'd still like a clear read on the interactions between the various stakeholders in these situations. What if the player declares they are tip top, smashes all the fitness tests etc., what then ? Do they still get held back ? How does one distinguish between a "niggle" and a genuine injury, when the player appears to be moving freely and without pain ? I can't imagine these issues are just black and white.

When you are a game and a half clear in second place.....you bring them back through the VFL.....half a game at a time if you need too.

No reason to do anything other than that.

[madbluboy]

When you are a game and a half clear in second place.....you bring them back through the VFL.....half a game at a time if you need too.

No reason to do anything other than that.

Yep, it was weird.

It's not hindsight either I could find my posts questioning it.