AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

[kruddler]

You're not going to win too many games when motlop, Harry and Charlie miss very gettable set shots.

Going mcgovern late, is a soft target.  There were plenty of opportunities to win it, but rather than blame our boys, the softest free kick to mason Cox in history was the difference on the day. 

Not sure Newman had much of him and he fell backwards under his own weight.

I've been in Newmans position before and given away a free kick for the same thing.

The bloke who got a free kick for it against me was actually an old school mate.
We talked about it afterwards.

He essentially falls backwards into me, deliberately, and instinct makes you try and catch them. They keep pushing back into you and your instinct is to hold them otherwise they will fall into you and your legs, potentially causing injury.

Its smart play if you get a free kick out of it.

Next time someone tries that, you simply side step them and let them fall and they look like a goose.
It should only work once.

[laj]

We started rushing players back who had missed a chunk of the season  and we lost our run. Some were ok to bring back but Cerra and Cottrell were 2 too many.  There's a difference in the side that smashed Geelong and now. Even Walsh missed his pre season and a chunk of the season. Was great for a while but now it's caught up. Went conservative at selection with half fit tried and true rather than playing fit players. Could well cost a season

[PaulP]

Wonder if Casa Curnow is available mid week ?

[Thryleon]

We started rushing players back who had missed a chunk of the season  and we lost our run. Some were ok to bring back but Cerra and Cottrell were 2 too many.  There's a difference in the side that smashed Geelong and now. Even Walsh missed his pre season and a chunk of the season. Was great for a while but now it's caught up. Went conservative at selection with half fit tried and true rather than playing fit players. Could well cost a season

Ironically that was Walsh's best game in a while. 

[Professer E]

We've run out of fit troops.

[Lods]

It's a bit gloom and doom  in here at the moment.
That's OK we all take different things from games.

A loss like that hurts.
It's against one of the two clubs we especially hate to lose against.
The funny thing is that the results of games between Carlton and Collingwood are never predictable, no matter what the ladder position.
And in this wacky season it's particularly so.
The form of clubs varies from month to month.
If you did a ladder just over the last six weeks it would be on its head compared to the ladder six weeks prior.
No game is guaranteed.
And picking a Premier this far out, or even the finals make up, is nothing more than a guess, because the ladder and form will likely turn on its head again.

Collingwood were a basket case a couple of weeks ago.
If they're still a basket case, then that reflects poorly on us.
But they are essentially still a premiership team, so what if they have clicked.
We were beaten by a couple of goals last week by a side who demolished the ladder leader last night.
Good luck trying to work any form line through some of the results.

Some folks are more disappointed than others.
There's an old saying that "the level of disappointment reflects the level of expectations."
It's very true about football.

So last night we were very poor in many aspects.
Players down, players injured, inaccuracy, lack of pressure.
Some of our better players had their poorest games for the year.
I'd hazard a guess that Curnow's 'rolled' ankle may be an ongoing stability issue that he's been carrying for some weeks.
Not much to get excited about.

Do we take solace in the last quarter effort?
If we condemn the bad, we can't overlook the good.
Turnarounds from bad form often manifest themselves in a good last quarter effort that follows into subsequent games.
It reminds players of the level of pressure and belief that are required.
Whether we take that lesson into the next few games will very much determine our fate.

As Voss said last night...it is now "urgent" and if we're good enough then "urgent" is a challenge we will rise to meet.

[stevie-poo]

Piss weak.

[Thryleon]

It's a bit gloom and doom  in here at the moment.
That's OK we all take different things from games.

A loss like that hurts.
It's against one of the two clubs we especially hate to lose against.
The funny thing is that the results of games between Carlton and Collingwood are never predictable, no matter what the ladder position.
And in this wacky season it's particularly so.
The form of clubs varies from month to month.
If you did a ladder just over the last six weeks it would be on its head compared to the ladder six weeks prior.
No game is guaranteed.
And picking a Premier this far out, or even the finals make up, is nothing more than a guess, because the ladder and form will likely turn on its head again.

Collingwood were a basket case a couple of weeks ago.
If they're still a basket case, then that reflects poorly on us.
But they are essentially still a premiership team, so what if they have clicked.
We were beaten by a couple of goals last week by a side who demolished the ladder leader last night.
Good luck trying to work any form line through some of the results.

Some folks are more disappointed than others.
There's an old saying that "the level of disappointment reflects the level of expectations."
It's very true about football.

So last night we were very poor in many aspects.
Players down, players injured, inaccuracy, lack of pressure.
Some of our better players had their poorest games for the year.
I'd hazard a guess that Curnow's 'rolled' ankle may be an ongoing stability issue that he's been carrying for some weeks.
Not much to get excited about.

Do we take solace in the last quarter effort?
If we condemn the bad, we can't overlook the good.
Turnarounds from bad form often manifest themselves in a good last quarter effort that follows into subsequent games.
It reminds players of the level of pressure and belief that are required.
Whether we take that lesson into the next few games will very much determine our fate.

As Voss said last night...it is now "urgent" and if we're good enough then "urgent" is a challenge we will rise to meet.

My major take away is that we kicked ourselves out of the game.  The problem I have with it is not for the first time and it wasn't about anything other than execution in front of goals.  I recall 4 maybe 5 very gettable set shots where the form fluctuation remains the same but the result is different.

We won't lose again all season.

[Professer E]

Lods,

Almost thirty years of mediocrity.  Almost every club has won a flag in that period, except us.  And we've been so bad we made West Coast look good.

And we loose every single important game - milestones, rivalry games... Any game that actually matters for something.

So many of us long-termers have had enough of the slogans,  lies and bulldust.  Respect for Pendles blah blah blah....how about respecting US the fans by turning up and having a fair dinkum go, not the bulldust we've seen this year....flog Geelong and then win one quarter in six weeks?  Really!?!  How about WINNING something?

It was the coaches that always wore the blame, maybe its the players, but this club has serious issues from top to bottom.

[kruddler]

My major take away is that we kicked ourselves out of the game.  The problem I have with it is not for the first time and it wasn't about anything other than execution in front of goals.  I recall 4 maybe 5 very gettable set shots where the form fluctuation remains the same but the result is different.

We won't lose again all season.

The killer for me was Motlop.

"14-1 from set shots in VFL and AFL combined"
*missed from 15m out directly in front*