AFL Rd 20 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

[PaulP]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-af...c294b75f40

Hopefully Ollie Wines' game isn't overlooked :

Former Brownlow Medallist Ollie Wines was immense in the middle of the ground with 26 touches and nine goals,

[laj]

Facts: 1st, 3rd and 4th qtrs yielded 2 goals.
Once the inevitable happened - Port increasing pressure, yes we were able to absorb it but lost boldness, creativity and offensive bite/too many blokes went into their shells and became reactive and safe, Ollie was and is a good example of this, under serious pressure, too many mistakes, fumbles and panicky disposals.
Hamstrung by the realities of injuries to key personnel - H/TDK/Blacres in particular.

Possible MC and coaching errors:
Just because L Young is 200+ cms tall, it doesn't mean he's a viable or obvious replacement for H - though I do get tall for tall. I wonder how many of us thought that when we learned of H's illness that Kemp would have been the obvious replacement up forward and Young down back on the out of form Dixon to free up Weiters for a more creative role? (2nd ruck duties to mids, to simply provide a contest and get the aggott on the grass).
Cerra a HBFer? Nuh. And we all know it. He's a midfielder, FFS.

Persistent issues:
Inconsistency in games and week to week.
Sh*t the bed when the real heat comes.
MC conservative, odd and safe selections.
Walsh trying to do too much, FFS Walshy use your possessions to bring team mates into the game rather than trying to do it all yourself.

So why am I still optimistic?
Trust in Cook, Voss & Crippa.
Imminent return of H & Blacres.
Our side does have character, a strong culture and a great core group.

In Young's case it was more to 2nd ruck.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I'm done with Young and would prioritize Lemmey. The former was terrible last night and you would get more of a contest at a nursing home bingo night than we got from Young.

[PaulP]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/07/27/a...ithdrawal/

[laj]

I'm done with Young and would prioritize Lemmey. The former was terrible last night and you would get more of a contest at a nursing home bingo night than we got from Young.

I'd think about Lemmey as well. Right now we have blokes playing that have missed pre season and missed a chunk of the season. That includes Walsh, who is looking tired. We are playing premiership footy for a qtr then are cooked. We can't play more than a qtr right now. Just don't see why Cottell plays. Why bring him straight back after injury. Binns must come in, fresh and can go all day.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I'd think about Lemmey as well. Right now we have blokes playing that have missed pre season and missed a chunk of the season. That includes Walsh, who is looking tired. We are playing premiership footy for a qtr then are cooked. We can't play more than a qtr right now. Just don't see why Cottell plays. Why bring him straight back after injury. Binns must come in, fresh and can go all day.

Id be promoting Binns this week for the extra run in his legs and to show the club will reward good VFL form.
I'd be telling Lemmey too that if he can play consistent footy like Binns has he too will get an opportunity.

[Professer E]

Yep EB, I'm at a loss with Young, has all the attributes to be a contributor but soft at the contest.  I thought it was a confidence issue but doesn't play like it means anything to him.  I'd pay out his contract and tell him to F off, that kind of attitude causes deep cultural issues at clubs.  No passengers.

I think Walsh's back issues are a real issue, he's lost any burst speed.  "Back related" hamstring used to be thing, and a real concern

Cerra needs a rocket as well. Play with intensity or piss off to Cramer Street.

[Baggers]

At the start of the season my greatest concern was expectation. And how we would deal with it and rise above it.

So let's distill and keep it simple. Here's the boring repetitious stuff that I've being banging on about for months (that erases nervous expectation delivery)... be the hunters. Live it and breath it.

A cliche that p1sses me off is... 'we know we can't have it all our way all the time...' what a ridiculous obvious reality to put in the player's heads and hearts - it opens a back door. It's a lapse excuse. It's a lapse justification. That's human nature, don't feed it with comments that give a lapse a justification or excuse.

Hunters crack the sh*ts with lapses. Hunters are intolerant of lapses and letting other sides in. Being the hunter should be and must be the default and the ruthlessly persistent position. And if someone hunts us... fckn great... 'now I'm going to hunt you harder than you hunt me, and for longer'. Hunters inspire and lift team mates. Hunters create an energy and spirit that is contagious & omnipotent... and a great single focus, provided, in our game, you have the blokes who can deliver. In the main, we have those blokes. A hunter culture weeds out non-hackers real quick. Examples? Newman is a hunter, so is Weiters, so is Acres, so is Crippa, so is Charles, so is TDK. I'm sure you can think of examples of blokes who once hunted, succumb. They're not hunters. Above the shoulders stuff, again.

This is a combative sport. Keep it simple. Be the hunters for 120 minutes. Every single minute.

[Thryleon]

At the start of the season my greatest concern was expectation. And how we would deal with it and rise above it.

So let's distill and keep it simple. Here's the boring repetitious stuff that I've being banging on about for months (that erases nervous expectation delivery)... be the hunters. Live it and breath it.

A cliche that p1sses me off is... 'we know we can't have it all our way all the time...' what a ridiculous obvious reality to put in the player's heads and hearts - it opens a back door. It's a lapse excuse. It's a lapse justification. That's human nature, don't feed it with comments that give a lapse a justification or excuse.

Hunters crack the sh*ts with lapses. Hunters are intolerant of lapses and letting other sides in. Being the hunter should be and must be the default and the ruthlessly persistent position. And if someone hunts us... fckn great... 'now I'm going to hunt you harder than you hunt me, and for longer'. Hunters inspire and lift team mates. Hunters create an energy and spirit that is contagious & omnipotent... and a great single focus, provided, in our game, you have the blokes who can deliver. In the main, we have those blokes. A hunter culture weeds out non-hackers real quick. Examples? Newman is a hunter, so is Weiters, so is Acres, so is Crippa, so is Charles, so is TDK. I'm sure you can think of examples of blokes who once hunted, succumb. They're not hunters. Above the shoulders stuff, again.

This is a combative sport. Keep it simple. Be the hunters for 120 minutes. Every single minute.

isn't that the whole point of saying we can't have it our way all the time?

To keep you fighting when it isn't?

[PaulP]

It's interesting, this idea of the psychology of the sporting mind. It's something of a dilemma, because you can't tell the players that our best team is not on the park, we have a few players out, therefore just try your best etc. But on the other hand, that's precisely what we, the coaches and the players are know perfectly well. There are very good reasons why clubs chase the top draft picks, why Cripps gets paid way more than Lewis Young. You can't tell the players injuries to A grade team mates are an excuse, but we all know those players are first choice for a reason. You can't keep winning with too many stars out. I didn't see our players lack effort last night. But they looked disorganized and tired, and you end up with an untenable situation where the B and C graders are not quite up to the mark, and the A graders try to overcompensate. At least that's how I see it.