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AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
(05-16-2024, 10:26 PM)Adelaideblue link Wrote:No of course not, Robbie Flower was a champion. Only time will tell how good a footballer Binnsie becomes. 
Merely making the point that lighter footballers can make the grade, if they are good enough.  Someone has mentioned David Glascott (71kg).  Mathew Lappin (77kg) known as "Skinny" also comes to mind. Young versions of these guys would be handy to day!  Smile  :

cheers
Ab

I reckon Binns will be a ripper, perhaps the next Berkeley Cox … if he sharpens his elbows ?

I think that the cautious approach to his development is more likely to bear fruit.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
(05-17-2024, 12:05 AM)DJC link Wrote:I reckon Binns will be a ripper, perhaps the next Berkeley Cox … if he sharpens his elbows ?

I think that the cautious approach to his development is more likely to bear fruit.

Despite some disappointment he is not in this week, I admit the old Carlton used to let them develop in the seconds for a fair while and that system appeared to work okay. Was it Curly Austin who did his time in the seconds winning their BF before promotion to firsts?    Remember a HBF with long hair anyway.

cheers Ab
from the.........City of (empty) Churches
Player management doesn't allow that to happen anymore, the player managers want the talent given opportunities at senior level the moment they show potential.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
(05-17-2024, 01:35 AM)LP link Wrote:Player management doesn't allow that to happen anymore, the player managers want the talent given opportunities at senior level the moment they show potential.

So it’s a good thing that player managers don’t have a say in team selection.  The vast majority will go along with whatever decision their player’s club makes.  The rest will struggle to survive.

During our dire period, I would often compare the games our draftees were getting with the ability of the leading teams to allow their draftees to develop.

There are many youngsters who are more than capable of walking straight into an AFL team and many more who will be better players because their clubs allowed time to develop. Player managers looking for a long term return will prefer clubs that can give their youngsters a measured transition to AFL.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
I'd be happy either way regarding binns but truth be told he isn't vying with fantasia for the same role and binns doesn't bring afl experience to the table.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
(05-17-2024, 02:54 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:I'd be happy either way regarding binns but truth be told he isn't vying with fantasia for the same role and binns doesn't bring afl experience to the table.
I love your enthusiasm, but if Fantasia comes in and has another 25pt rating game it's over for him the moment other players get fit.

If we are going to carry a player getting single digit disposals and having little game influence, it may as well be a longer term project. That's just how I see it.

Generally, you have some senior types around the club on the fringes, it is so they can come in and do a job having an immediate impact without the need to learn the ropes. As horrible as this sounds, we got more out of Tutt, Lang, Smedts maybe even Clem Smith than we have out of Fantasia for a similar number of games.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
(05-17-2024, 03:16 AM)LP link Wrote:I love your enthusiasm, but if Fantasia comes in and has another 25pt rating game it's over for him the moment other players get fit.

If we are going to carry a player getting single digit disposals and having little game influence, it may as well be a longer term project. That's just how I see it.

Generally, you have some senior types around the club on the fringes, it is so they can come in and do a job having an immediate impact without the need to learn the ropes. As horrible as this sounds, we got more out of Tutt, Lang, Smedts maybe even Clem Smith than we have out of Fantasia for a similar number of games.

Agree LP. Better to play a young developing player than Fantasia. He has had enough chances and shown zip. 
We resurrected Fantasia's career when all and sundry reckoned he was kaputt.  Time to pay the rent or feck off.  It grinds my gears to watch blokes going at half rat power when there's always kids crying out for opportunity.

Even if you can't get a kick, you can still lay tackles and put on blocks.  Don't just stand there DO SOMETHING
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
(05-17-2024, 03:30 AM)Professer E link Wrote:We resurrected Fantasia's career when all and sundry reckoned he was kaputt.  Time to pay the rent or feck off.  It grinds my gears to watch blokes going at half rat power when there's always kids crying out for opportunity.

Even if you can't get a kick, you can still lay tackles and put on blocks.  Don't just stand there DO SOMETHING
Orazio spent the second half of last  season in the SANFL and Port played Jed MCEntee ahead of him as a small pressure forward and he didnt exactly light it up imo so you have to ask why wasnt Fantasia played when he appeared fit and had some good games where he kicked goals and had decent stats.
(05-17-2024, 03:27 AM)pertz link Wrote:Agree LP. Better to play a young developing player than Fantasia. He has had enough chances and shown zip.

Far be it from me to stick up for Fantasia, but its games like this one which is the reason we picked him up.
A senior body, with AFL experience, with the smarts to turn a game quickly against quality opposition.
If he ever wants to justify his position, its tonight under the above (finals like) conditions.

If we were outside of the top 8, then 100% you play the kid.....but thats not where we are as a team right now.


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