AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

[laj]

Looking at Richmond during their flag years, as they played a very high pressure game like us. They were pretty damn ordinary until about July each year. Then peaked when it mattered, just getting top 4, being able to keep up their high pressure game where they buried sides come finals. Thinking we could be the same. We couldn't keep up a high pressure game and were out on our feet. By July/August we will. Suppose that is called peaking. Interestingly, during that 4 year period, the one year they didn't make the GF was the year they finished on top.

[RiverRat]

Just thinking about Petracca and how he got off the leash. Charlie should've gone to him in the last late in the last quarter, he was in the backline anyway, he's athletic enough and strong enough to impede Petracca's influence, only has to break even.

Not sure about Charlie in that role - I think Newman might have been the best available option after McGovern was toasted a couple of times.  If Cincotta hadn't been so much on top of Pickett, he might have been worth a try.

[DJC]

Just on Ollie Hollands, caught a couple of times last night...he's only in his second season, still young , still very slight, and still probably adjusting to the speed of the game.
When he gets a bit more experience and a bit more bulk (he may never be super big, but he can add a bit of muscle and strength) he'll be a valuable long term player for us.

I reckon that was Ollie's best game.

I think that he is trying to find the time to make his disposals count and underestimates his opponent's closing speed and/or proximity.  In some ways it's probably better that he gives away a free than kicking to the opposition.  I imagine that Tim Clarke and Luke Power will be working with Ollie to improve his ability to get his disposals away more quickly and without losing efficiency.

Ollie was quieter in the second half, and Langdon's not the player he was, but it's still an important scalp to have taken. 

[DJC]

Arrived home from the game with Junior G2C to be greeted my an angry Mrs G2C. Reckoned the Ch7 commentary was so biased she had to mute it. Ahhhh yes, love it when my effect wears off on family members.
PS Heard Cornes this morning on radio say how he listened to SEN Blues Radio (Maher, Edmond, Kouta and Ange) synced with the TV telecast, absolutely hilarious he reckons.

Ms DJC is pretty much a neutral observer and she remarked that she never heard such biased commentary before.  She also had a crack at the umpires for some poor decisions 

BT and his mates do tend to boost the team that's behind so that the punters won't turn the game off but a bit of balance would be a pleasant change.

I must learn how to sync Blues Radio 

[cookie2]

Agree with remarks about the Ch7 commentary last night. It scaled new heights in bias, irrelevance and statement of the blindingly obvious. BT gave a masterclass ably supported by his willing cohort.

[LP]

I imagine that Tim Clarke and Luke Power will be working with Ollie to improve his ability to get his disposals away more quickly and without losing efficiency.

Just on this issue, I understand we try to hit targets, but last night we looked more dangerous when the ball hit the deck in our F50. I think we are missing a trick, in that trying to hit targets late left Lever and May with a smorgasbord of intercepts. We had Owies, Durdin, Martin and at times Elijah, Cottrell, Cripps, Walsh and Kennedy all inside F50, space is a target, even a grubber kick along the ground is a target.

What's wrong with getting the ball within our goal range a creating a stoppage after stoppage as opposed to delivering Lever and May easy intercepts?

If the Dees are going to rely on Petracca inside F50, then leave him there and make stoppages in our F50 without him around the footy!

[Baggers]

Not sure about Charlie in that role - I think Newman might have been the best available option after McGovern was toasted a couple of times.  If Cincotta hadn't been so much on top of Pickett, he might have been worth a try.

Exactly what I thought. Cincotta would have been great, but then Pickett would have gotten off the leash and potentially wreaked havoc. Newman would have been the man.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

BT is simply insufferable.

14m 50s to go, Windsor drops the mark, turns and picks up the ball - stops, props, tried to sidestep the tacklers but is wrapped up by Owies and Pittonet, BT’s commentary: “He won the footy and tried to duck under the tackle, great call”.
Great call? GREAT CALL?! What a dipcrap. This is what rankles. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him criticise a poor decision against us. Yet poor decisions in our favour (e.g. dangerous tackle) have him basically fomenting dissent in the commentary team about how we’re borderline cheats and calling for rules changes.

2m:13s to go when Petracca throws Newman to the ground it’s a low key “Carlton fans wanted a free there”. Notice how he doesn’t just downplay the incident but also can’t subconsciously disguise his low opinion of “us” - the fans. We’re effectively low-life whingers who can’t possibly understand the rules like he does.
It was left to a co-commentator (Daisy T.?) to tell it like it is, “Petracca needs to be careful. That should have been a free kick”.

[LP]

Personally, I don't think we had much wrong structurally or tactically, we forced turnovers and we able to stop the Dees momentum multiple times after giving them the ball via execution errors. We didn't really give away any silly frees if we ignore a couple of umpiring howlers.

Our main problem was still execution, even when we had time and space we basically delivered the footy to the Dees HB line!

[LP]

Agree with remarks about the Ch7 commentary last night. It scaled new heights in bias, irrelevance and statement of the blindingly obvious. BT gave a masterclass ably supported by his willing cohort.

On the question of a lack of enthusiasm in BT's calling.

In the past he use to make excuses that we were boring to watch, yet in recent weeks we've been in both high scoring shoot outs, fumbling high intensity struggles, and last night in the first half we were dominant and efficient the imposing Handbagger style. Yet his attitude calling our games remains largely the same, until the moment our opposition get on a roll and his demeanour changes! He is pretty much schtum until our opposition look threatening, and even if/when we are on a roll he spends most of his time casting seeds of doubt or talks about the weather.

His dislike of Carlton is palpable, so why bother dragging down the spectacle, just get him out of the call team on our games!

It reminds me of watching The Storm versus any NSW team, the nine crew basically turn the broadcast into a Bellyache, Big Nasty, et.al., bashing session, I feel sorry for Cam Smith and Billy Slater for having to put up with it!