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(11-01-2023, 09:42 PM)Lods link Wrote:My expectation is that we'll win the whole bloody thing.
Anything less, and I'll be sad :'(
We have the side that's capable.
We just need it all to click, some natural improvement... and a bit of luck.
The thing about our side is that we have few if any players who are on the downslide.
They're either at their peak or yet to reach it.
Countering that, Newman played out of his skin and is anyone seriously expecting Acres to back up to the same level ? Hollands ?
Can someone else step up and cover ?
Maybe Acres and Hollands won’t get much attention next year, after all league wide, everyone seems to let wingers run free…
Let’s go BIG !
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(11-02-2023, 10:05 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Countering that, Newman played out of his skin and is anyone seriously expecting Acres to back up to the same level ? Hollands ?
Can someone else step up and cover ?
Maybe Acres and Hollands won’t get much attention next year, after all league wide, everyone seems to let wingers run free…
I reckon they'll all be as good or better.
Young Hollands will be better for the year's experience, plus a first real pre-season.
Older Hollands has to prove himself so if he has any character he should be fine, because he does have ability.
Acres played the last part of the year with half an upper body.
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Newman will be consistent again.
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(11-02-2023, 10:05 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Countering that, Newman played out of his skin and is anyone seriously expecting Acres to back up to the same level ? Hollands ?
Can someone else step up and cover ?
Maybe Acres and Hollands won’t get much attention next year, after all league wide, everyone seems to let wingers run free…
These players shine, when your team is getting good. When was the last time a player looked like a spud in a good side?
In terms of backing up, all they have to do is play their role every week, and they will look like a million bucks.
You know what my concern is for my team moving forward?
Egos. I want to be captain, I want to be best on ground, I want to be the fan favourite, I want to play selfish football and be the star.
Stronger together, and play your role.
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(11-02-2023, 10:33 PM)Lods date Wrote:I reckon they'll all be as good or better.
Young Hollands will be better for the year's experience, plus a first real pre-season. In the greater scheme of things, it's highly unlikely the Hollands or Cowan will escape the 2nd year blues.
If they don't escape the 2nd year blues it's no big deal, it happens to 99.5% of players.
If the do then you need to take note because they are the exceptions and you can count the exceptions on one hand, a player like Walsh being one of them. Others that have escaped it include Judd, Martin and Selwood, which by definition means it's not very common.
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(11-02-2023, 10:05 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Countering that, Newman played out of his skin and is anyone seriously expecting Acres to back up to the same level ? Hollands ?
Can someone else step up and cover ?
Maybe Acres and Hollands won’t get much attention next year, after all league wide, everyone seems to let wingers run free…
100%
Happens to every club every year.
Some players get better.
Some players play the same.
Some players play worse.
This can happen for.a variety of reasons, not least of which is injury.
Anyone extrapolating form based on nothing but the best possible output from all 40+ players on the list is destined for disappointment. It's not possible.
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(11-03-2023, 02:41 AM)LP link Wrote:In the greater scheme of things, it's highly unlikely the Hollands or Cowan will escape the 2nd year blues.
If they don't escape the 2nd year blues it's no big deal, it happens to 99.5% of players.
If the do then you need to take note because they are the exceptions and you can count the exceptions on one hand, a player like Walsh being one of them. Others that have escaped it include Judd, Martin and Selwood, which by definition means it's not very common.
Yep. To go with that, the guys that are young and struggled a bit this year are likely to replace them in that equation, so you might see Ollie drop off, only for Elijah/Binns to fill that void, and Durdin to come back in. Not to mention draftee number 20/28.
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(11-03-2023, 02:41 AM)LP link Wrote:In the greater scheme of things, it's highly unlikely the Hollands or Cowan will escape the 2nd year blues.
If they don't escape the 2nd year blues it's no big deal, it happens to 99.5% of players.
If the do then you need to take note because they are the exceptions and you can count the exceptions on one hand, a player like Walsh being one of them. Others that have escaped it include Judd, Martin and Selwood, which by definition means it's not very common.
The "second year blues" is largely a figment of some fans' imaginations.
Weitering didn't quite live up to expectations in his second season because he was played out of position. Blokes like Acres, Kemp and McKay didn't do so well because they hadn't established a place in the team or were battling injuries. Others like Cripps, Walsh, Silvagni, Cottrell, both Curnows, Hewett, Kennedy, Gibbs, Murphy, Motlop, Cerra, etc, etc either maintained their form or stepped up a notch.
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(11-03-2023, 03:07 AM)DJC date Wrote:The "second year blues" is largely a figment of some fans' imaginations.
Weitering didn't quite live up to expectations in his second season because he was played out of position. Blokes like Acres, Kemp and McKay didn't do so well because they hadn't established a place in the team or were battling injuries. Others like Cripps, Walsh, Silvagni, Cottrell, both Curnows, Hewett, Kennedy, Gibbs, Murphy, Motlop, Cerra, etc, etc either maintained their form or stepped up a notch. 2nd year blues is a symptom of being the system long enough for the opposition to build a portfolio of your strengths and weaknesses, it is not related to the stats or the year of draft.
It's about finding ways to continue to influence games when the opposition have learnt how to make you uncomfortable or ineffective, and it's very real. Virtually every players suffers it, because they are facing opponents for a 2nd or 3rd time and the honeymoon is over, they are no longer known unknowns.
A great example, after his breakthrough season opposition started pushing Cripps onto his left side, he still got plenty of footy after all he is almost unstoppable, but his effectiveness diminished. He could barely make contact with his left foot and he started doing blind over the shoulder handballs and the like. Over the next couple of seasons he developed ways to give himself time and space so he could be more effective. Only recently he's started using his left foot, it's still not great but it buys him even more time and space because opponents can no longer just force him that way.
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We are at the stage now where we just aim for the flag. I always felt this year was our 1978 before our 1979. Situation very similar. Next year we are capable of dominating.
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Kane Kornes has picked us for the flag.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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