Posts: 29,292
Threads: 289
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
The voting patterns turned out to be pretty interesting, both sides post the vote are spinning like crazy to run their preferred agendas.
As far as I can tell, it seems inner city and academia was Yes, and pretty much everywhere else in the country was No.
A couple of odd standouts;
- The NT which holds the highest percentage of indigenous population strongly voted No.
- Inner City Melb which apparently has one of the countries lowest Indigenous populations, voted strongly Yes.
Overall, it seems to indicate just how wrong the referendum was, a niche question that was seen by the vast majority as waste of time and money.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
Posts: 18,852
Threads: 274
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 05:09 AM)LP link Wrote:The voting patterns turned out to be pretty interesting, both sides post the vote are spinning like crazy to run their preferred agendas.
As far as I can tell, it seems inner city and academia was Yes, and pretty much everywhere else in the country was No.
A couple of odd standouts;
- The NT which holds the highest percentage of indigenous population strongly voted No.
- Inner City Melb which apparently has one of the countries lowest Indigenous populations, voted strongly Yes.
Overall, it seems to indicate just how wrong the referendum was, a niche question that was seen by the vast majority as waste of time and money. If there was a election tomorrow and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was running for PM, I'd vote for her in a heat beat. I'd not heard much about her prior to the Voice debate, what a breath of fresh air, the future of Australian politics I reckon. Thoughts?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
Posts: 10,710
Threads: 117
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
Waste of time and money. Should have had another republic referendum which would have got up then we could make larger, more meaningful changes.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
Posts: 29,292
Threads: 289
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 05:41 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:If there was a election tomorrow and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was running for PM, I'd vote for her in a heat beat. I'd not heard much about her prior to the Voice debate, what a breath of fresh air, the future of Australian politics I reckon. Thoughts? It's hard to judge politicians on a single agenda.
When we elect officials we elect them to perform as general purpose administrators. In recent years there have been some disastrous elections across local, state and federal politics, because social media tends to drive interest in myopic agendas. My own region is suffering badly with over half the local representation either elected on a single agenda platform, without disclosure of a myopic agenda or without disclosure of a political allegiance.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
Posts: 1,574
Threads: 17
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 05:09 AM)LP date Wrote:The voting patterns turned out to be pretty interesting, both sides post the vote are spinning like crazy to run their preferred agendas.
As far as I can tell, it seems inner city and academia was Yes, and pretty much everywhere else in the country was No.
A couple of odd standouts;
- The NT which holds the highest percentage of indigenous population strongly voted No.
- Inner City Melb which apparently has one of the countries lowest Indigenous populations, voted strongly Yes.
Overall, it seems to indicate just how wrong the referendum was, a niche question that was seen by the vast majority as waste of time and money. Not sure it's the 'vast majority'. If 10% of the swinging voters would have seen a different outcome. The 'If you don't know, vote no' catch-cry was well and truly on display where I voted, and I would suggest that many of the people walking in to vote had only that message ringing in their ears, because many people (I use my 4 adult children as exhibits) couldn't be bothered finding out what this referendum was about. Perhaps that explains why the inner-city academics voted yes, while the outer-suburbanites voted no?
Interesting to read the take on the outcome in the international media. Pretty much universally suggested that the campaign was hijacked for political purposes and the electorate was by and large conned with a barrage of half-truths and fabrications. Of course, Albanese should have been smarter and read the mood of the room, because referenda never pass unless they have bi-partisan support.
Funny now to hear all the local politicians saying we must now 'work together to get real improvements for Indigenous peoples', or words to that effect (we've done well on that one for the past 122 years, haven't we...?) Why do I find it hard to believe that will be the case when it comes to voting on legislation....?
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
Posts: 18,852
Threads: 274
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 05:58 AM)LP link Wrote:It's hard to judge politicians on a single agenda.
When we elect officials we elect them to perform as general purpose administrators. In recent years there have been some disastrous elections across local, state and federal politics, because social media tends to drive interest in myopic agendas. My own region is suffering badly with over half the local representation either elected on a single agenda platform, without disclosure of a myopic agenda or without disclosure of a political allegiance. In a world seemingly devoid of common sense, compassion, empathy and integrity, she comes across (from what Ive seen) as possessing these qualities. I could be wrong, that's the impression I get.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
Posts: 1,574
Threads: 17
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 05:41 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:If there was a election tomorrow and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was running for PM, I'd vote for her in a heat beat. I'd not heard much about her prior to the Voice debate, what a breath of fresh air, the future of Australian politics I reckon. Thoughts? Impressive though she has been, she has as much chance of being the leader of the Coalition as I have of lining up at full-forward in the first game next year. She has served her purpose, and the Libs will ensure that normal service is resumed as soon as possible.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
Posts: 18,852
Threads: 274
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 06:19 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Impressive though she has been, she has as much chance of being the leader of the Coalition as I have of lining up at full-forward in the first game next year. She has served her purpose, and the Libs will ensure that normal service is resumed as soon as possible. Well they need to read the room then.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
Posts: 1,574
Threads: 17
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
(10-15-2023, 06:21 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Well they need to read the room then. The room has just told them that when it comes to Indigenous affairs, much of the country is either against it or doesn't want to know. All the more reason why the thought of a female indigenous leader in charge of the Liberal party would be electoral suicide.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
Posts: 20,141
Threads: 165
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation:
0
You can certainly quibble about whether such a referendum was necessary at this point, but once the decision was made, the opportunity should've been taken. We seem to lack the confidence, ethics and maturity to deal with adult issues in an adult way, so the end result is that we are once again hostage to inertia, ostrich behaviour, political opportunism and all the rest.
|
