AI and creativity.

[LP]

This is where people get mashed up in the logic, they think Nano and AI are somehow on the same end of the spectrum, but they are polar opposites and always will be.

As intelligent as fruit fly might be, there is nothing to fear about nanobots and the like, tiny means low power, low energy, low strength. And Fruit Flies are Millibots or Microbots, thousands or hundreds of times bigger than Nano.

Nanobots are robots, robots on the nanoscale are not AI, never will be, they are not shrunk down tiny versions of CP30 or a submarine with lasers. No matter how smart the AI that might command a Nanobot or trillions or Nanobots, just one drop of soapy liquid ends the day horribly for them and stops them doing the singular thing they are engineered to do!

All the Nanobots that have ever been invented are ground to a halt by one single drop of detergent in a litre of water.

So if you harbour a fear of the unseen, have a shower, and if you are really paranoid try some Selsun Blue!

So there is no need to flocculant to those bad ideas!

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[Lods]

I asked the AI whether it was going to destroy humanity..
It was a bit each-way.
But, I'm not sure I trust it... :

The question of whether AI will destroy humanity is a complex one, and there are many different opinions on the matter. Some experts believe that AI could pose “profound risks to society and humanity” 1. Others have warned that AI could lead to the extinction of humanity 23. However, it’s important to note that these are just possibilities, and there is no guarantee that they will come to pass.

It’s also worth noting that many experts believe that AI has the potential to do a lot of good in the world. For example, AI could be used to help solve some of the world’s most pressing problems, such as climate change and poverty 1. Additionally, AI has the potential to make our lives easier and more convenient in many ways.

In conclusion, while there are certainly risks associated with AI, it’s important to remember that there are also many potential benefits. As with any new technology, it’s up to us as a society to ensure that we use it in a responsible and ethical manner.

[kruddler]

This is where people get mashed up in the logic, they think Nano and AI are somehow on the same end of the spectrum, but they are polar opposites and always will be.

As intelligent as fruit fly might be, there is nothing to fear about nanobots and the like, tiny means low power, low energy, low strength. And Fruit Flies are Millibots or Microbots, thousands or hundreds of times bigger than Nano.

Nanobots are robots, robots on the nanoscale are not AI, never will be, they are not shrunk down tiny versions of CP30 or a submarine with lasers. No matter how smart the AI that might command a Nanobot or trillions or Nanobots, just one drop of soapy liquid ends the day horribly for them and stops them doing the singular thing they are engineered to do!

All the Nanobots that have ever been invented are ground to a halt by one single drop of detergent in a litre of water.

So if you harbour a fear of the unseen, have a shower, and if you are really paranoid try some Selsun Blue!

So there is no need to flocculant to those bad ideas!

3 strikes and you're out.

Stop thinking about the now.

[kruddler]

I asked the AI whether it was going to destroy humanity..
It was a bit each-way.
But, I'm not sure I trust it... :

AI has the potential to do good, and could very much help with climate change.

You know what the easiest thing to combat climate change would be? Kill all humans! lol

Definition of 'good' and 'helping' are open to interpretation.....a simple misunderstanding could be all it takes.

You've seen enough episodes of Black Mirror to know how the best of intentions can go sideways very quickly and all so innocently enough.

[Lods]

3 strikes and you're out.

Stop thinking about the now.

Between Ukraine and Israel we'll  be lucky to be here at Christmas

[kruddler]

Between Ukraine and Israel we'll  be lucky to be here at Christmas

In that podcast i referenced, and its from 2018 i believe, it talks about existential events and how different ones could occur and wipe out humanity for good.

Obviously, i've talked about AI.
They mentioned climate change.
The talk about the possibility of an asteroid ala Dinosaurs.
Aliens get a mention.
Pandemic gets a going over (again, pre-covid.....and they got so much of that right)
and all of this only matters if we don't wipe out ourselves via war first.

Also talks about the possibility that we are actually living in a simulation and we are not real. (Think Black Mirror, Hang the DJ)

Talks about 'the great filter' and 'the drake equation' before we even get into any of the above.
Its an honest, look at all things from a scientific and unbiased point of view without grandstanding and fear mongering....despite how it may appear.

[Thryleon]

You guys are talking about AI as it currently exists.

I'm talking about AI in the future, how far into the future is anybodys guess and its almost impossible to fathom.
Just like 100 years ago, it was impossible to fathom a contraption that could be used as a calculator doing basic mathematical operation any pre-schooler can do. When it eventually came to be, it was as big as a room. Now everyone carries that, and 100 other inventions capable of so much more, in their pocket.

What does 100 years from now look like??

30 years ago the thought of self driving cars was nothing more than sci fi nonsense. Now it exists.

Chat GPT is like the first fish that every crawled out of the water and onto land.
AI i'm talking about is humans taking over the planet.
There are a lot of steps from then to now, but it will happen. Time being the only unknown.

im talking about machines.

They don't think, they don't really learn, they just crunch numbers.

They can appear to be smart but they aren't.

The algorithms you've touched on that shape your thoughts so to speak are basic.  They take an aggregate of what you've seen, and then show you more of what you've liked or seen before because the goal is to keep you watching and liking social media.  They use data on your browser to feed you something you're interested in.  The mics are on, and key words do get used to display something for you, but use a different browser without the trackers and it falls over.

Quantum computing may be a game changer but these things appear smart and intelligent,but they aren't actually intelligent.  They can likely calculate a variety of diferent outcomes based on probability, data and information but they don't think, they don't learn and they can't really arrive at conclusion with intuition. 

Will things change in future?  Hard to say.  The ability to act and react to situations absorbing everything happening around is still reliant on data of some type be it an input device, cameras or microphones and they are still going to utilise a predetermined set of instructions to do anything and if the instructions are written poorly it will end up in a loop or a situation where the machine crashes.

I will not trust my life in the hands of a driver less vehicle.

Technology has come a long way, but I can't trust the best device I've ever used to get things right and that's the smart phone in my pocket.  It still does dumb shit.

[ElwoodBlues1]

im talking about machines.

They don't think, they don't really learn, they just crunch numbers.

They can appear to be smart but they aren't.

The algorithms you've touched on that shape your thoughts so to speak are basic.  They take an aggregate of what you've seen, and then show you more of what you've liked or seen before because the goal is to keep you watching and liking social media.  They use data on your browser to feed you something you're interested in.  The mics are on, and key words do get used to display something for you, but use a different browser without the trackers and it falls over.

Quantum computing may be a game changer but these things appear smart and intelligent,but they aren't actually intelligent.  They can likely calculate a variety of diferent outcomes based on probability, data and information but they don't think, they don't learn and they can't really arrive at conclusion with intuition. 

Will things change in future?  Hard to say.  The ability to act and react to situations absorbing everything happening around is still reliant on data of some type be it an input device, cameras or microphones and they are still going to utilise a predetermined set of instructions to do anything and if the instructions are written poorly it will end up in a loop or a situation where the machine crashes.

I will not trust my life in the hands of a driver less vehicle.

Technology has come a long way, but I can't trust the best device I've ever used to get things right and that's the smart phone in my pocket.  It still does dumb crap.

Ditto..especially to the driverless vehicle..

[LP]

Quantum computing may be a game changer but these things appear smart and intelligent,but they aren't actually intelligent.

Agreed.

People think quantum computing is like general purpose computing, but it is not really going to be a game changer for General Purpose computing because the problem is the energy budget even if you solve the technical issues.

It takes a lot of juice to solve even a basic problem using quantum computing, so they will be targeted at very specific problems like crypto, molecular chemistry, medical or physics, etc., etc.. They will change these very niche areas, but they are unlikely to be used for day to day problems like current supercomputers or server farms.

[kruddler]

Agreed.

People think quantum computing is like general purpose computing, but it is not really going to be a game changer for General Purpose computing because the problem is the energy budget even if you solve the technical issues.

It takes a lot of juice to solve even a basic problem using quantum computing, so they will be targeted at very specific problems like crypto, molecular chemistry, medical or physics, etc., etc.. They will change these very niche areas, but they are unlikely to be used for day to day problems like current supercomputers or server farms.

Quantum computing is where the AI really goes to the next level and now we are starting to think into the future.

That being said, i have to laugh at your bold comment. Reminds me of the initial comments about computers from IBM boss in the 40's.
"I think there is a world market for about five computers.

Once the cat is out of the bag....thats that.