AI and creativity.

[kruddler]

Yep
It wasn't really meant as a 'one's better than the other, both are tremendous power singers...and it's a personal preference.
It was more about the technology.
I'm still not certain where I stand.
It would be great to hear singers of the past doing songs they didn't record while alive.

But there may be ethical issues that need addressing.
Who benefits financially from the singers 'intellectual property'?
The singer has no control over the music...he may have been very resistant to recording a particular song or genre?
Old band members can 'reform' with the deceased on AI, not necessarily a bad thing.
I understand Lennon's voice has been AI'd to some old Beatles material
But do we want a top 40 consisting of Buddy Holly, Elvis, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Bowie etc singing new material
(I reckon 80%+ will answer yes)  

Implications are also there for actors as the technology advances.
Will we see Marylin Monroe in "Barbie 2"
or
Oppenheimer himself in "Oppenheimer 2"

It's a brave new world :-\

Not sure if you are aware but SAG (screen actors guild) are striking at the moment basically for this reason.

The actors can pretty much be made obsolete with basically current technology. We could have new Brad Pitt movies coming out for the next 300 years.

[Lods]

Not sure if you are aware but SAG (screen actors guild) are striking at the moment basically for this reason.

The actors can pretty much be made obsolete with basically current technology. We could have new Brad Pitt movies coming out for the next 300 years.

Yep, very aware.
The Screenwriters are back.
The actors are still negotiating...not just about AI but also there are issues around streaming and the revenue they used to get from re-runs of shows

I just get the feeling that it's all pretty much swimming against a Tsunami.
The genie is out of the bottle.

[dodge]

Yep
It wasn't really meant as a 'one's better than the other, both are tremendous power singers...and it's a personal preference.
It was more about the technology.

I know Lods, but couldn't help myself, sorry!  But it's pretty cool to hear the clear diction and both were note perfect. (as well as the rest of the Queen and their harmonies).

What will be scary is when scammers hack your phone, get a recording of your voice voice, send a text/message showing your number, but using a different one, use your voice, ask for money from a rellie and then it gets sent to a 'wrong' account.

Three top international crimes are:
Weapons
People Trafficking
Drugs

Surely scamming/cyber crime has to be number 4 with a bullet.

[ElwoodBlues1]

ChatGpt had Freddie Mercury, Bruce Springsteen, Prince and Bono as the best male lead singers of a band in that 80's era when I asked the question....Steve Perry didnt get a mention.

[Lods]

ChatGpt had Freddie Mercury, Bruce Springsteen, Prince and Bono as the best male lead singers of a band in that 80's era when I asked the question....Steve Perry didnt get a mention.

Lets ask Brian May.

https://societyofrock.com/what-makes-ste...ct%20pitch.

Perry has an incredibly powerful range – spanning from F#2 to A5. As far as singing goes, he’s peerless and a force of nature at that. Even fellow rockers have nothing but praises for him. Queen’s Brian May even described him as “a truly luminous singer” and “a voice in a million.” Plus, he has a smooth tone and a perfect pitch. He essentially raised the bar for every other lead singer out there with his emotive delivery which gave an extra punch to Journey’s power ballads.

Perry's my favourite.
Others would have a different choice.
You'd get a fair few in front of the AI choices (apart from Mercury) from most people.
I like Springsteen...but you need subtitles.  

[Lods]

ChatGpt had Freddie Mercury, Bruce Springsteen, Prince and Bono as the best male lead singers of a band in that 80's era when I asked the question....Steve Perry didnt get a mention.

Here's what I got when I asked the AI who were the best power ballad singers of the 1980s

The 1980s was a decade of power ballads, and many male singers made their mark in this genre. Some of the best male power ballad singers of the 1980s include:

Michael Bolton: Michael Bolton is an American singer and songwriter who rose to fame in the 1980s. He is known for his powerful voice and emotional ballads. Some of his most popular power ballads from this decade include “How Am I Supposed to Live Without You” and “When a Man Loves a Woman” 1.

Richard Marx: Richard Marx is an American singer, songwriter, and producer who had several hits in the 1980s. Some of his most popular power ballads from this decade include “Right Here Waiting” and “Hold On to the Nights” 2.

Steve Perry: Steve Perry is an American singer and songwriter who was the lead vocalist of the rock band Journey. He had several hits in the power ballad genre, including “Open Arms” and “Faithfully” 3.

Bon Jovi: Bon Jovi is an American rock band that had several hits in the 1980s, including “Livin’ on a Prayer” and “Wanted Dead or Alive.” The band’s lead singer, Jon Bon Jovi, is known for his powerful vocals and emotional performances 4.

Foreigner: Foreigner is a British-American rock band that had several hits in the 1980s, including “I Want to Know What Love Is” and “Waiting for a Girl Like You.” The band’s lead singer, Lou Gramm, is known for his powerful voice and emotional performances 5.

These are just a few examples of some of the best male power ballad singers from the 1980s. There were many other talented artists who made their mark in this genre during this decade.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Here's what I got when I asked the AI who were the best power ballad singers of the 1980s

Scary?
I'll throw in Paul Rodgers of "Free and Bad Company fame" as my No 1.
Queen chose him to work with as well and I thought he was very good at filling in for Freddie when Queen toured for a few years.

[LP]

These LLM AIs can be manipulated by starting a counter-argument, you can basically debate with the engine and it will change the response to make you happy with the answer, truth and accuracy mean very little.

Also careful crafting of any question will change the response as the LLM take a very literal interpretation of the question, so much so drafting questions is now a career option for some segments of business!

Ask the same fundamental question worded two different ways, and get different answers.

[LP]

As much as people fear AI, I suppose it is natural to fear something you do not understand or cannot observe, when you see what is going on right now surrounding Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Palestine and some TBA, you basically have the likes of Trump, Zuckerberg and Musk to thank for much of this.

They are easily observed, and you are far better off fearing them than an AI, vaccine or referendum!

They profit from various roles and enterprises by fostering doubt, casting aspersions and dividing society, and unlike an AI which acts mechanically without consciousness, these people do it deliberately.

Seriously, it's like the French Revolution never happened in Meta's version of history!

[kruddler]

AI should very much be feared. Its just a matter of when.....and its most likely not now.....and may not be for a long time.

The neural networking stuff is where things get weird. The AI teaches itself, and we don't know how it is actually doing it.

Its a black box.
We give it inputs, and we look at the outputs and tell it if its right or wrong and it adjusts itself as required.

It is already better at looking for diseases in x-rays than the best trained doctors.....and we dont know what it is seeing that we cannot.

I've mentioned it before, but look up "The end of the world with Josh Clark" podcast. It has an episode dedicated to AI and explains things a lot better than i could.

There was a part in it about how we need to be very careful with what we tell AI as it could very much end us by accident without the right fail safes involved.

It has an example. A paper clip company uses AI to become more efficient. Initially AI creates efficiency in production line, packaging etc. It looks at getting better materials to get the best quality paper clips. It can build machines to do this. It grows and grows and wants to maximise resources, be that land for mining, water for production. Eventually realises that humans are simply getting in the way and wipes us out as well to 'loot' our 'resources' to make better paper clips. It creates space ships to go mine asteroids for better materials etc etc.

Its a ludicrous scenario, and i've left out a lot of detail, but step by step, each next step is plausible and possible in the not too distant future.
I mean Kubrick was predicting this kind of (humans getting in the way) over 50 years ago with HAL in 2001.
"I'm sorry Dave, i'm afraid i can't do that"

It might not happen until long after we are all dead and buried...but it might happen sooner.
Moore's law makes it hard to comprehend how quickly and how advanced the future will be.
Throw in some quantum computing and anything is possible.