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(09-21-2023, 05:59 AM)DJC date Wrote:You have to wonder why an irrelevant flog like Newman has his racist agenda aired on mainstream media. [member=324]DJC[/member] All sides of the debate make money from it!
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(09-21-2023, 05:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:An old mate's son, Colin Hunter, is doing the welcomes at the G and doing them very well indeed.
The respect that he is paid during and after his short ceremony suggests that the vast majority either agree with the welcome or are not opposed to it. I just want to know why they demand money? Why not do it for free?
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09-21-2023, 11:07 AM
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Sam Newman is nothing but a grumpy old man who is still looking for headlines.
He made a living on the Footy Show by going out on the street and making fools of unfortunates who didn't know any better, and he is still poking a stick at those he feels are beneath him.
I know it is said he is a top bloke, but his public persona is one of an irrelevant flog who doesn't deserve the oxygen that he keeps getting from his old mates in the media. He should look up the word respect and see if he can find a scintilla of it in his rantings.
What also comes with freedom of speech is the responsibility of free speech. You can't have one without the other.
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(09-21-2023, 10:25 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I just want to know why they demand money? Why not do it for free?
Does anyone involved in the pre-game activities do it for free?
Why shouldn’t Colin be recompensed for his time and effort?
We’re well past the time when Indigenous Australians were expected to provide services for free or, at worst, for rations.
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(09-21-2023, 06:35 AM)LP link Wrote:[member=324]DJC[/member] All sides of the debate make money from it!
My Koori mates, who are feeling battered by this latest assault on their status as the first Australians, would love to know how they can tap into their share.
The only folk who make money out of issues like this are the media outlets that cater to angry old white men.
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(09-21-2023, 12:09 PM)DJC date Wrote:My Koori mates, who are feeling battered by this latest assault on their status as the first Australians, would love to know how they can tap into their share.
The only folk who make money out of issues like this are the media outlets that cater to angry old white men. There is as much influence and money in this debate for both sides as there is in associate marketing, it's not restricted to a race or religion!
Someone somewhere on both sides pockets some cash.
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(09-21-2023, 11:48 AM)DJC link Wrote:Does anyone involved in the pre-game activities do it for free?
Why shouldn’t Colin be recompensed for his time and effort?
We’re well past the time when Indigenous Australians were expected to provide services for free or, at worst, for rations. Mate the small primary school my wife works at enquired about getting a ceremony done at an assembly as part of their First Nation people cultural studies, they got quoted $750 to $1000 which they couldn't afford.
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(09-21-2023, 02:47 PM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Mate the small primary school my wife works at enquired about getting a ceremony done at an assembly as part of their First Nation people cultural studies, they got quoted $750 to $1000 which they couldn't afford. It's even worse on the bureaucracy side of things, in some areas you get land site survey fees as part of planning permits but built into this is you guessed it, a tick off from local indigenous communities before you can even dig a hole, more $ for that in the fee than the surveyors.
Another case, a family farm has been growing trees for lumber for nearly 100 years. They want to clear some of the trees to restore pastures, now they have to get a permit to clear trees their own family planted and we're initially denied on indigenous heritage grounds. But hold a ceremony to clear the land for use it'll be OK, $11,000 is the fee they paid, the ceremony involved burning fallen timber and removing what was described as a handful of dirt. The ashes of fallen timber from their own trees, it's like a joke story you hear in a Scottish pub about how locals con tourists!
If shizen like this is really going on, then it's obligatory for it to be exposed by both sides of the debate, otherwise one side is going to risk being labelled disingenuous!
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(09-21-2023, 05:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:You have to wonder why an irrelevant flog like Newman has his racist agenda aired on mainstream media.
The trouble with our world is that irrelevant flogs get clicks and clicks get coins. If we are talking about it, it's working.
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Sam doesnt seem to have a problem with making a dollar out of the referendum himself...you do have to laugh sadly, there are no morals, ethics etc when it comes to making a dollar these days out of any issue or situation with some people.
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