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AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
#71
Well that was an interesting experience... getting my tickets to next Friday's game. Have not done this before.

Took ages to finally get through. Then when I eventually did (about 40 minutes) I took a risk and rejected the first tickets (in the rafters) so kept trying again, and again, and again. Paid off in the end.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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#72
We should account for the Swans comfortably imo.....No Franklin, banged up Papley if he plays, Hickey on his last legs retiring and a very undersized and underwhelming backline. Heeney is a poor finals performer and for me its a case of shutting down a couple of their star onballers in Gulden and Warner and the rest should fall into place.
No silly matchups or experimental positions ie I dont want inexperienced players like Cincotta on Heeney or Hollands on Gulden, or Harry rucking when they have their best mids in operation  and they get some easy clearances.
A player like Gulden needs to be shut down not have one of ours playing off him in a head to head fashion hoping to get more of the ball and win on the stat sheet. A common sense approach to matchups and attention to detail is all that is needed to win this game on the wide open plains of the MCG which should suit us more than the Swans.
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#73
(08-30-2023, 04:32 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Well that was an interesting experience... getting my tickets to next Friday's game. Have not done this before.

Took ages to finally get through. Then when I eventually did (about 40 minutes) I took a risk and rejected the first tickets (in the rafters) so kept trying again, and again, and again. Paid off in the end.
With the online ticketing agents being shambolic with big events, I have been told and read online that rejecting is fraught with danger, I would have taken seats in the toilet if that was they offered.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#74
(08-30-2023, 04:58 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:We should account for the Swans comfortably imo.....No Franklin, banged up Papley if he plays, Hickey on his last legs retiring and a very undersized and underwhelming backline. Heeney is a poor finals performer and for me its a case of shutting down a couple of their star onballers in Gulden and Warner and the rest should fall into place.
No silly matchups or experimental positions ie I dont want inexperienced players like Cincotta on Heeney or Hollands on Gulden, or Harry rucking when they have their best mids in operation  and they get some easy clearances.
A player like Gulden needs to be shut down not have one of ours playing off him in a head to head fashion hoping to get more of the ball and win on the stat sheet. A common sense approach to matchups and attention to detail is all that is needed to win this game on the wide open plains of the MCG which should suit us more than the Swans.
Again, l dont share your confidence. They average 89 pts for this year and concede 81 (if you take away their 205 pt game v WC its drops from 89 to 84). We average 84 and concede 74 so I think it will be closer than many think. Chances of "poor finals players" having another stinker are slim IMO. I rate Heeney and believe he will be out to make a mends so take them lightly at our peril. I would be confident against any of the other 6th -8th  sides in a final, not Syd thought.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#75
(08-30-2023, 05:16 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Again, l dont share your confidence. They average 89 pts for this year and concede 81 (if you take away their 205 pt game v WC its drops from 89 to 84). We average 84 and concede 74 so I think it will be closer than many think. Chances of "poor finals players" having another stinker are slim IMO. I rate Heeney and believe he will be out to make a mends so take them lightly at our peril. I would be confident against any of the other 6th -8th  sides in a final, not Syd thought.

Agree again. There's plenty of experienced, quality players on their list. They don't need to be stars to make an impact. McClean, Rowbottom, Cunningham, Hayward, Florent, Mills, Blakey, McInerney etc. - these are all solid, bankable AFL players, and not to be taken lightly IMO.
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#76
[member=64]PaulP[/member]‍ and [member=160]Gointocarlton[/member]‍ I agree 100%, the Swans are no push over, Blakey and McCartin match up well with Charlie and Harry, Parker and Mills are heavy bodies who do some damage to our midfield ranking on a regular basis. Blakey looks Tilt like but gets the job done.

Add to that, Hickey is playing perhaps the best footy of his career, not surprising given the coaches own credentials.

No team has a certain match up for Heeney.

We will need our mediums and smalls to stand up, but it's not going to be light work.  The best way to deal with Gulden and Papley is to make sure they don't get much of the footy.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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#77
I think also they would have been pretty embarrassed by their capitulation in last year's GF, and will be looking to regain some respect and self belief. They will give 100% for 4 quarters. In its own way, a massive game for both clubs.
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#78
(08-30-2023, 06:14 AM)LP link Wrote:[member=64]PaulP[/member]‍ and [member=160]Gointocarlton[/member]‍ I agree 100%, the Swans are no push over, Blakey and McCartin match up well with Charlie and Harry, Parker and Mills are heavy bodies who do some damage to our midfield ranking on a regular basis. Blakey looks Tilt like but gets the job done.

Add to that, Hickey is playing perhaps the best footy of his career, not surprising given the coaches own credentials.

No team has a certain match up for Heeney.

We will need our mediums and smalls to stand up, but it's not going to be light work.  The best way to deal with Gulden and Papley is to make sure they don't get much of the footy.
Hickey was beaten by Gawn last week, and flogged by Obrien and Witts in the preceding weeks if thats the best footy of his career then we can probably rest easy.
Blakey and McCartin dont match up well against Charlie and Harry at all imho.....both are undersized and given its at the MCG on a bigger ground wont be getting much help from their teammates.
Id play Newman on Heeney......he might be due like Rohan was for Geelong last season but he has been very ordinary in his previous finals series. I just cant see us losing to the Swans unless they get lucky like they did vs Adelaide and have the goal umpires working for them, the karma bus should dictate they lose after lucking their way in.
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#79
(08-30-2023, 05:07 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:With the online ticketing agents being shambolic with big events, I have been told and read online that rejecting is fraught with danger, I would have taken seats in the toilet if that was they offered.
This is basically what I did! We’re up the top Q55! Took me 35 mins to get through and I had my phone going and my work computer and phone got through first! I was too afraid to reject them!!
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#80
Swans have played at the G three times this year for 3 losses, kicking only 84,  48 and 75 points. I think they are spooked at the G!!
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