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The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet
(08-18-2023, 07:26 AM)LP link Wrote:The longer any one player spends on the bench in a continuous block, the less rotations they consume and the more remain for others to utilise.

It's not that hard to understand. Wink

No its not. You know what else is not hard to understand, one ruck takes up a spot on the bench for longer than anyone else. So if you limit the amount of time those 2 players spend on the bench, you can extend the time the others spend on the bench. It does NOT require extra rotations.

If there is 3 injured players on the bench, you have 1 spot to rotate through. If you want to get to your rotation numbers, it will be super short bench time because they all rotate through that one spot.
If you have 2 spots, they get longer breaks on the bench for the same rotations. 3 spots...and 3.5 spots is the same thing.

Same amount of rotations, spread across more spots for rotation = more time on the bench.

Of course, the other point you've missed is you've got 1 extra mid (at the expense of the second ruck) so players need less rotations as a result anyway.....not that they need to rotate less, but they could if they wanted too.
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Best 2 rucks in the game, and Dees still can't fit them in their best 22.

Wonder why?

You simply don't need 2 #1 rucks in the same side....no matter how good they are.
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(08-18-2023, 08:58 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Best 2 rucks in the game, and Dees still can't fit them in their best 22.

Wonder why?

You simply don't need 2 #1 rucks in the same side....no matter how good they are.
Yes, they were so happy when Jackson left!

Of course as usual you ignore the statements made by many in this forum and also our coach, that it's not two rucks that matter, it's two complimentary rucks that make all the difference.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(08-18-2023, 10:18 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, they were so happy when Jackson left!

Of course as usual you ignore the statements made by many in this forum and also our coach, that it's not two rucks that matter, it's two complimentary rucks that make all the difference.

I don't ignore anything apart from the nonsense you keep spouting. Every 'reason' you've posted, i've disproven, yet rather than suck it up and admit you are wrong, you just point off into the distance and spout....but what about that....all the time getting further and further away from any kind of logic.

In a last ditch effort to make you see some kind of logic, i'll remind you that i've freely admitted that the rucks compliment eachother. I'll point out that our ruck area is stronger with 2 rucks in it. I'll remind you again, that this was never in question....just the fact that, you, lods and plenty of others have highlighted (and i've agreed) the influence of a ruckman is limited.....so having 2 does not benefit the team as much as having a backup ruck playing another position does.

So do yourself a favour and let it go. I'm sick of it, and plenty of others are sick of it too.
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Sigh, irrespective of what we think look what Collingwood have done with their talls tonight.  They've screwed their team balance and ended up with a ruck as the sub. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(08-18-2023, 10:33 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Sigh, irrespective of what we think look what Collingwood have done with their talls tonight.  They've screwed their team balance and ended up with a ruck as the sub.

Yep, worst thing you can do is include a ruck as the sub.
Many in the pre-season suggested it was the right thing to do, but i have always been strongly opposed to that because it gives you no flexibility.
You are better off playing your 2nd ruck and subbing one out, rather than using one as your sub.

I tipped pies as an outsider this week, but unless they can pull another win out of their rectum, i think i'm screwed.
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(08-17-2023, 04:21 AM)DJC date Wrote:Lods has suggested that hitouts to advantage occur so rarely as to be largely inconsequential.  Two research projects, one from Swinburne and one from Victoria University, have shown that Lods is correct.

Pitto is very competitive at ruck contests but not so useful in the other aspects of a ruckman's role.
A near perfect display of those two lines is the result tonight, Cox handed out so many HtA he's got RSI but that's it for the Filth as far as progressing the pill goes and Cox becomes invisible before that pill even hits the intended target. His second effort comes at the next stoppage! ;D

The contrast between Cox who can get his hand on everything first and someone like a Blicsavs, Jackson or TDK is a stark reminder of our Warnock days! The bean poles no matter what they do with the tap aren't worth it, it's the players who have the instant 2nd, 3rd or as many repeat efforts as needed that make the difference.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(08-18-2023, 12:43 PM)LP link Wrote:A near perfect display of those two lines is the result tonight, Cox handed out so many HtA he's got RSI but that's it for the Filth as far as progressing the pill goes and Cox becomes invisible before that pill even hits the intended target. His second effort comes at the next stoppage! ;D

The contrast between Cox who can get his hand on everything first and someone like a Blicsavs, Jackson or TDK is a stark reminder of our Warnock days! The bean poles no matter what they do with the tap aren't worth it, it's the players who have the instant 2nd, 3rd or as many repeat efforts as needed that make the difference.
Isnt Gawn a beanpole? 
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(08-19-2023, 12:11 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Isnt Gawn a beanpole?
[member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member], that's a silly question as you and everybody knows Gawn as mobile and aerobic as any player in the competition.

Why would you even try to make that assertion?
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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For bloke that doesn't like to give interviews (Sorry, BT I get nervous) Pitto did pretty well on the Sunday footy show today.
A lot of it was party line stuff, but he was confident, articulate and even a little funny.
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