AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

[PaulP]

I've got mixed feelings about the ins and outs for this game. On the one hand, I can see the logic of the "don't flirt with form" argument, and we should pick the best 22 available. On the other hand, with the guaranteed outs, plus the players who are subject to test, I'd be tempted to leave them all out, including Charlie Curnow and Weitering, and just accept a loss, and keep the players fresh for the last 4, more winnable games.

[shawny]

Not a hope in the world we can bring Pit back this week. If there is one thing the pies are is lighting fast and just cant afford a player like Pit in the midfield mix IMO.

And losing Walsh's pace as well in a midfield that is already on the slow side was a major blow and can't compound that with being even slower again by bringing in a slow one dimensional ruckman that is only good for guarding space once the bounce is over.

Cox can at least go forward and be a target our man is useless in everything but the tap.   

[kruddler]

Not a hope in the world we can bring Pit back this week. If there is one thing the pies are is lighting fast and just cant afford a player like Pit in the midfield mix IMO.

And losing Walsh's pace as well in a midfield that is already on the slow side was a major blow and can't compound that with being even slower again by bringing in a slow one dimensional ruckman that is only good for guarding space once the bounce is over.

Cox can at least go forward and be a target our man is useless in everything but the tap.

We know your thoughts on Pittonet. So leaving that aside....

How do we get 2 key forwards and a ruckman out of TDK and Charlie? We need a 3rd option without Jack and Harry.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Teams under estimate players like Cox and Mihocek and this is part of the reason why the Pies have done so well. They stick in their lane and play within their limitations. Both are important pieces for Collingwood, Mihocek kicked four on Weitering last time and is that blue collar non traditional full forward who doesnt look much but is a real footballer who is team focussed rather than looking to be the next Coleman winner. Cox is no great ruckman or KP Forward but he is a hard to dominate against and thats where his value is, he also has that habit of taking big marks and kicking straight when it matters and is far from the bumbling idiot who first graced the MCG years ago. To be honest Id have more faith in Cox giving Collingwood something than I would Young giving us a solid game of football at the present time....his loss of form remains a mystery and in terms of softness he would be leading the Quilton medal.

[Blue Moon]

My view is that it doesn't matter who is in or out but how much intent we bring to the game. I am assuming that Cripps,  Cerra, Martin and Owies will be coming in with Silvagni, Walsh, Motlop, Dow and Honey going out. Young being the second ruckman. The one injury I am concerned with is Cincotta as we would need to replace him with Marchbank or Plowman which might unbalance our defence.

[LoveNavy]

Congratulations to George Hewett on his 150th. May it be a game to remember.

[Professer E]

I'd bring Binns in.  It's all about run this week.

[townsendcalling]

Teams under estimate players like Cox and Mihocek and this is part of the reason why the Pies have done so well. Cox is no great ruckman or KP Forward but he is a hard to dominate against and thats where his value is, he also has that habit of taking big marks and kicking straight when it matters and is far from the bumbling idiot who first graced the MCG years ago. To be honest Id have more faith in Cox giving Collingwood something than I would Young giving us a solid game of football at the present time....his loss of form remains a mystery and in terms of softness he would be leading the Quilton medal.

Who in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??
195  Weitering?
192  Kemp?
191  McGovern?
202  Young?
Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall  target.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Who in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??
195  Weitering?
192  Kemp?
191  McGovern?
202  Young?
Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall  target.

Got no doubt Young is the best matchup for Cox height wise and will probably start on him if he plays but given his recent form it's not a matchup Im confident about winning.
Don't mind McGovern going forward as I think we just can't leave Charlie as the only tall marking option.

[LP]

There won't be easy crumbs against the Filth D50 who are all strongly built, agile and quick, plus they get at least one Daicos or Sidebottom for assistance.

Moore usually starts off by punching BigH in the side of the head, so I expect Charlie cops one like that early, sorry Ump I was just stretching to spoil! Reminds me of that day Warnock was ended by a Handbagger, a classic round arm spoil!