AFL Rd 15 2023 Carlton have the bye!

[kruddler]

We've recently read about the extra work that Harry McKay does on his game, and I bet he's not the only one. Add to that the sh1storm that has engulfed the club recently, I would definitely give the boys some extra R+R. They need to freshen up, recuperate and recharge a little bit. 14 weeks continuous football is a hard slog. What I would get them to do is some extra sessions with the club psychologist, to ensure (as much as possible) that they don't come out half asleep for the Hawks game, and have to play catch up for the last 3q because they gave up a big lead.

100% give them some time off.

Harry is supposedly the most committed bloke on our list in terms of preperation and focussing on football....and how has that been working for him?

Sometimes the best thing you can do is forget about football for a moment and that can end up being the best thing for them.

[Gointocarlton]

We've recently read about the extra work that Harry McKay does on his game, and I bet he's not the only one. Add to that the sh1storm that has engulfed the club recently, I would definitely give the boys some extra R+R. They need to freshen up, recuperate and recharge a little bit. 14 weeks continuous football is a hard slog. What I would get them to do is some extra sessions with the club psychologist, to ensure (as much as possible) that they don't come out half asleep for the Hawks game, and have to play catch up for the last 3q because they gave up a big lead.

Plenty of time for R&R at the end of the year.

[northernblue]

100% give them some time off.

Harry is supposedly the most committed bloke on our list in terms of preperation and focussing on football....and how has that been working for him?

Sometimes the best thing you can do is forget about football for a moment and that can end up being the best thing for them.

Something that dad hinted at in that article the other day.

[Thryleon]

100% give them some time off.

Harry is supposedly the most committed bloke on our list in terms of preperation and focussing on football....and how has that been working for him?

Sometimes the best thing you can do is forget about football for a moment and that can end up being the best thing for them.

I've often looked at our team and wondered if they are a happy bunch.  They sometimes seem a bit over whelmed by it all.

[Lods]

When you're set on a plan, you're doing a lot right and it's just not happening, it can be frustrating.
You're confident you're on the right track, so you just go that little bit harder, figuring that if you give that little bit of extra effort it will make the difference.
What you're actually doing in effect is 'trying too hard' and the mental impact of extra effort=poorer result doesn't really compute.
It can leave you angry, frustrated and unhappy.
I'm wondering whether we've been seeing a little of that in the first half of this year.

In my own experience of coaching and competing in track and field, the best performance sometimes comes when you're relaxed.
You'll see it in100 metre races where one sprinter looks loose and fluid in his running while the guy alongside him looks to be straining, tightening up giving what appears to be greater effort, but losing all form and going backwards.
I've sometimes had athletes coming off a week of sickness, no expectations, yet producing a personal best.

Give them a week off.

Coming up after the bye is more a mental than a physical issue.

[Gointocarlton]

When you're set on a plan, you're doing a lot right and it's just not happening, it can be frustrating.
You're confident you're on the right track, so you just go that little bit harder, figuring that if you give that little bit of extra effort it will make the difference.
What you're actually doing in effect is 'trying too hard' and the mental impact of extra effort=poorer result doesn't really compute.
It can leave you angry, frustrated and unhappy.
I'm wondering whether we've been seeing a little of that in the first half of this year.

In my own experience of coaching and competing in track and field, the best performance sometimes comes when you're relaxed.
You'll see it in100 metre races where one sprinter looks loose and fluid in his running while the guy alongside him looks to be straining, tightening up giving what appears to be greater effort, but losing all form and going backwards.
I've sometimes had athletes coming off a week of sickness, no expectations, yet producing a personal best.

Give them a week off.

Coming up after the bye is more a mental than a physical issue.

I disagree, maybe because I'm a hard task master by nature. At the end of the day, 1. What does it mean to them? 2. Are they prepared to leave no stone unturned? 3. Can they look in the mirror at the end of a failed year and say "I did everything I could"?
I reckon I know what they would answer to all the above.

[Lods]

I disagree, maybe because I'm a hard task master by nature. At the end of the day, 1. What does it mean to them? 2. Are they prepared to leave no stone unturned? 3. Can they look in the mirror at the end of a failed year and say "I did everything I could"?
I reckon I know what they would answer to all the above.

In any training annual period there has to be times when you have heavy and lighter loads....'periodization'.
Peaks and troughs of intensity
A continual demanding load through the season is counter-productive...it leads to burn-out and injury.
Russell and the fitness crew should be all over it.
The season would have been planned well in advance to peak at the right time of the year...and in thatb process there would be times of heavier and lighter loads.

If we are to have a week off or low intensity it would have been planned well in advance.
The greater issue will be the mental impact of the bye and having the players ready to go in the right frame of mind against Hawthorn.

[LP]

If we are to have a week off or low intensity it would have been planned well in advance.
The greater issue will be the mental impact of the bye and having the players ready to go in the right frame of mind against Hawthorn.

Agreed.

As long as Cook keeps an eye on the process, in my experience micromanagement can easily do more harm than good, especially if it's used as a substitute for good skills training and education.

I generally associate micromanagement with corporate psychopaths.

[Gointocarlton]

In any training annual period there has to be times when you have heavy and lighter loads....'periodization'.
Peaks and troughs of intensity
A continual demanding load through the season is counter-productive...it leads to burn-out and injury.
Russell and the fitness crew should be all over it.
The season would have been planned well in advance to peak at the right time of the year...and in thatb process there would be times of heavier and lighter loads.

If we are to have a week off or low intensity it would have been planned well in advance.
The greater issue will be the mental impact of the bye and having the players ready to go in the right frame of mind against Hawthorn.

They go on a break after a good win, get on the piss, lose momentum, play like dogs against Haw. Lets revisit the argument when that occurs.

[ElwoodBlues1]

They can have a rest and freshen up....this season is gone imo and Im only interested in players who we want to persist with going forward. Win, lose, or draw against Hawthorn wont mean much and Id be wanting to get everyone fit so I can assess them for next season. The fringe players whose career's are on the line would be the ones I might decide need some extra work but the contracted locks I would be resting.