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Cripps and Walsh were very average as bad as small forwards and Lob that cost us a couple of goals.
If Cripps doesn't lead by example this team will lose.
On the positives - Kemp continues to grow his game, I felt that Cerra tried to do it all himself and stood up with no support
Saad starting to get back some form. TDK competed well and s a big improvement from beginning of the year
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(06-02-2023, 12:50 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:How many 4q i50's went directly to their defenders. That's not acceptable. 9
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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The boys gave good effort and never gave up, against what is a star studded, experienced, stable, premiership winning top 4 team, which has been up and about for a while now. But it's the same old story : ball use, ball use and ball use. Whether this is a time issue or a personnel issue, I have no idea.
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(06-02-2023, 09:11 PM)PaulP date Wrote:The boys gave good effort and never gave up, against what is a star studded, experienced, stable, premiership winning top 4 team, which has been up and about for a while now. But it's the same old story : ball use, ball use and ball use. Whether this is a time issue or a personnel issue, I have no idea. I didn't doubt the effort, but I thought both sides were very average. Melbourne also had a lot of significant outs, but IMHO, they looked like a middle of the pack team last night.
On the times when we took the game on and ran, we looked ok. But it was the same old story for 90% of the night - stagnant, predictable football, which is so easy to defend against.
One last thing - LOB, hand in the #4 guernsey, son, just not up to it. Get the Binns kid in for the rest of the year.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
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(06-02-2023, 01:52 PM)Macca37 link Wrote:I can't get out of my mind a passage of play in the second quarter when we ran the ball close to the half forward line and our player chose to kick long and high to Motlop who was caught out standing between two Melbourne players who were at least 15 centimetres taller.
Of course the ball was immediately sent back to their forward line with our players out of position.
The only people I can commend are our fitness staff. Because of brain fades and such poor skill levels which cause so many turnovers during a game, our players must expend at least twenty five percent more energy than the opposition players, yet they are able to keep disappointing supporters for the full four quarters.
I vividly recall that kick and remarking to myself at the time "WTF!".
Reality always wins in the end.
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(06-02-2023, 01:00 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Need a player like Fritsch who can be that reliable creative inbetween sized forward rather than just have all talls(Charlie and Harry) and all smalls(Motlop, Owies etc) given our smalls have zero marking ability and dont get much ground ball.
I agree in principle but Fritsch missed a couple of sodas last night and can be a bit too selfish at times imo. He does definitely impact though, especially when games are in the balance.
Reality always wins in the end.
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Voss has us playing a safe slow wide gameplan which typically is used when coaches don’t trust they teams ball use see their as having major holes and lacking leg speed. This gameplan reduces mistakes and keep the opposition to as low a score as possible. Even if we snare a win It’s awful to watch. He knows we are slow and can get caught badly on turnovers esp thru the middle so we only dare go there when the game is pretty much over and have nothing to lose. There is no flair no exciting passages of play. Boring and frustrating for fans to watch a list that is supposed to be deeply entrenched in finals this year play this sort of brand.
Haven’t even hit the bye and finals are now gone and we may finish the season just a few positions above the basket case teams.
I’ve finally now lost the passion I had and don’t get anywhere near as annoyed when we lose cause i fully expect it now. I still love my club and always will but I now have accepted this rebuild is a fail and the current list will not be successful in any sense of the word. Worst part is the players think the same and play accordingly.
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(06-02-2023, 10:52 PM)shawny link Wrote:Voss has us playing a safe slow wide gameplan which typically is used when coaches don’t trust they teams ball use see their as having major holes and lacking leg speed. This gameplan reduces mistakes and keep the opposition to as low a score as possible. Even if we snare a win It’s awful to watch. He knows we are slow and can get caught badly on turnovers esp thru the middle so we only dare go there when the game is pretty much over and have nothing to lose. There is no flair no exciting passages of play. Boring and frustrating for fans to watch a list that is supposed to be deeply entrenched in finals this year play this sort of brand.
Haven’t even hit the bye and finals are now gone and we may finish the season just a few positions above the basket case teams.
I’ve finally now lost the passion I had and don’t get anywhere near as annoyed when we lose cause i fully expect it now. I still love my club and always will but I now have accepted this rebuild is a fail and the current list will not be successful in any sense of the word. Worst part is the players think the same and play accordingly.
This is unfortunately an accurate assessment of the situation imo. I now feel that each game is an exercise in futility and am resigned to feeling that there is no visible way out of the present wilderness. The club just looks lost.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(06-02-2023, 10:51 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:I agree in principle but Fritsch missed a couple of sodas last night and can be a bit too selfish at times imo. He does definitely impact though, especially when games are in the balance. Plays well in big games eg GF and is usually a good kick.
For a VFL player who cost nothing he was a great pickup and I agree can be selfish but good forwards usually are.
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06-02-2023, 11:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2023, 11:06 PM by Lods.)
Just a bit to lighten the mood... ;D
A couple of weeks ago DeKoning kicked the ball the wrong way in the VFL game against Williamstown
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1660114145927213056
I'd have to see it again, and it might be hard to find because I'm not even sure what quarter it happened, but....
I think he almost did it again last night before correcting himself and heading back to the right side of the mark.
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