AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

[Lods]

True - the list is more than good enough to play finals. One game out of the eight so hope this silly at times club doesn't make any rash decision

Sayers was the one who set finals as the goal.
Others have a different opinion of whether that's the indisputable target.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

Probably need  an excellent opposition analyst who can advise on what variations to gameplan are required each week.

Definitely second this. Weiters tagging Darcy Moore is crazy enough to work.

[Gointocarlton]

Yep
It may be time to give Cripps a change of scenery.

Seriously, I'm not sure there was a lot in it but we'll put our own interpretations on it.

There's a general feeling that Cripps may have played a large part in Teague's demise.
That could also extend to Bolton.
But that's speculation.

What is probably not speculation is that Cripps wields a lot of influence over the playing group.

If it did come to a showdown it may be thaty the Captain moves this time rather than the coach.

But as I said that's speculation, maybe even wild speculation.

He's on coach no 4, Ed C on his 5th. Just saying.

[LoveNavy]

My tip was Pies by 26. I am really struggling to see us improve based on 10 games.

It's not like we have the worst list, major injury concerns, or a bad draw insofaras travel goes. Yet here we are sliding down the ladder.

For all the effort, we're just not getting it right. While that happens sometimes, we've made a habit of it now. Worse still, nothing we try (giving credit to coaches, fitness, MC as I have no idea what they're trying) is improving our results. Results are all that count at this stage of our .... rebuild.

Time is running out to get going and maintain some good form.

Go Blues

[Gointocarlton]

I think it's fair for Voss to demand more from his leaders.

No argument from me mate, what I am telling is that the footage will be played all week, it will be written about all week, the Mathiesons of the world will come come at us again.

[Gointocarlton]

True - the list is more than good enough to play finals.

Ill beg to differ.

[pinot]

Not sure how this is Voss and the list as just missed playing finals last season.

I think the team is 2 x high quality small forwards short of a flag but to make 8-6th more than good enough imo.

[Lods]

My feeling is that since Parkin and Brittain empowered the players they've had a bit too much influence on coaching decisions.
I think it's been a  major issue for us.
It was particularly evident during the Pagan/Kouta period and it was probably a cultural thing that was enhanced as each generation of players came to the club.
Murphy, Gibbs, Simpson etc would have walked into this environment where players sometimes called the shots and sunk a coach's tenure.
Cripps in his early days would also have experienced this ongoing culture thingy with senior palyers calling the tune.
Has it had an influence.
Has it affected decisions regarding coaching.
If so, it's a cycle that needs to be broken.
The coach needs to be "The Man"

[madbluboy]

Not sure how this is Voss and the list as just missed playing finals last season.

I think the team is 2 x high quality small forwards short of a flag but to make 8-6th more than good enough imo.

Then we should win next week no problems right?

[LP]

Pathetic effort. Pies toyed with us and then took the foot off the gas.

Yep, they were laughing and joking as they moved around the ground, even when we put the brakes on they were going half-ar5ed and we were flat chat.

Love the heart and soul that SoJ brings, but if that is to be his role he may as well be played in the VFL, it's just pointless. That moment I think late in the 3rd says it all, gets a perfectly weighted pass from somebody off the HBF, and stood there waiting for the pill to come to him which was intercepted, that's junior football rubbish.

Took the best part of 3-qtrs before Pitto took a D50 mark, it's his gig and we messed it up completely.

Our MC got the rope-a-dope with Cameron, and confirmed we are the dopes!

We actually did OK at stopping the run of the Filth, opposition clubs will look at that knowing we aren't that fast, it'll work for others. Saad and Doc burnt a lot of footy, as did Boyd early but he found his feet.

Acres is off the boil, no point playing a bloke just to prove he was worth the trade.

We've a big bodied Midfield, and I was very disappointed that we didn't reduce the influence of De Goey more.

Young is off the boil as well, has good moments but they come at a price. Teams are structuring up so that Young becomes our free KPD, and it's not working for us, he's not a particularly good ball user and is slow to act. I hope he watched Moore and took notes!

Not getting anywhere near enough out of Motlop or Durdin, they are two permanent passengers at the moment.

Not sure what is wrong with Cripps, huge heart, love the effort, but I can't see the point of arguing with the coach on the boundary line, not sure any of our players have enough credits to question Voss credentials, Bolton maybe, Teague probably not, Voss definitely not, makes me think of Teague again!