AFL Rd 9 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

[Milhanna13]

Main job is defend your man....Essendon asked him to defend and he got upset.
We can't carry too many kick chasers at the expense of defending your man...
You can't let Jaime Elliott on his own all game this week...

Dont fall for the same cr@p line that the media trot out, because their Cheats FC mates fed it to them........  "Saad doesnt defend".  He is actually really good in one on ones.  Yeah, he occasionally gets caught out of position, when he is trying to make the play (but someone else should be covering for him - as he does for others, all the time).    its a myth, started by EFC, and suits the media and others on social media to keep perpetuating it

[laj]

Bit of a clearer look now the frustrations have subsided. W

hy the change in game plan? Players execution is poor as they struggle to find someone to kick to. What was wrong with last year's game plan. Targets were hit more easily then and we were a good side. We have equal best set of key forwards, Brownlow Medalists, Rising Stars, AA's but play the defensive game plan that has never suited them. Hence we can't get clear ball into the F50, despite the talent there. Issue is too players have to want it badly enough, always an issue, but the coach has to set up a plan the utilises the side's abilities.

Voss had best get back to what works, like last year, otherwise he'll be back to the assistant coaching ranks again next year. We had a review 2 years ago that demanded we play finals with our list. Miss them and it'll be all over. As for the players, a better improvement in attitude. Most disappointed hitting the front Saturday night then letting the Dogs get 3 goals in 5 kicks. That part is on the players.

[PaulP]

Dont fall for the same cr@p line that the media trot out, because their Cheats FC mates fed it to them........  "Saad doesnt defend".  He is actually really good in one on ones.  Yeah, he occasionally gets caught out of position, when he is trying to make the play (but someone else should be covering for him - as he does for others, all the time).    its a myth, started by EFC, and suits the media and others on social media to keep perpetuating it

Saad is among the very least of our problems IMO.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Dont fall for the same cr@p line that the media trot out, because their Cheats FC mates fed it to them........  "Saad doesnt defend".  He is actually really good in one on ones.  Yeah, he occasionally gets caught out of position, when he is trying to make the play (but someone else should be covering for him - as he does for others, all the time).    its a myth, started by EFC, and suits the media and others on social media to keep perpetuating it

Im not saying he isnt a good one on one defender but he was a long way off Scott when he kicked those goals and my main issue is you cant have too many players rebounding and not enough defending especially when the game is tight.

[Milhanna13]

Seeing as how finals are no longer a priority,

Thats a bit of a long bow???

[madbluboy]

How frustrating that we developed Liam Jones into a gun defender and sent him back to the dogs.
He destroyed us, apparently has won 14 out of 15 one on one contests this season.

[Professer E]

We didn't give him away, the bloke did a number on us.  It seemed a bit convenient if you ask me, especially the timing.

In the highlights from the weekend he makes a pathetic, outlandish "marking attempt" on JSOS which looked like an obvious free.  Anyway it spilled and Chuck kicked a goal from it.  Looked like a typical Jones Captain chaos incident.

[LP]

What irks me about Jones is that when he spoiled like that at Carlton he was penalised giving away free after free, and now he isn't!

Otherwise, we don't really miss him, he is still captain chaos and is just as likely to clean up one of his own as the opposition.
At the weekend, the Dogs got away with a huge amount of checking on Charlie and Harry, with the Dogs small defenders blocking and leaving one of them free, Johannisen and Richards early were getting away with murder.

But it only was possible because Motlop and Durdin run around like headless chooks, they exerted zero pressure of Richards and Johannisen early in the match, I would not be surprised if both Dogs small defenders had 20+ possessions by 1/2-time, and we just kept kicking to Charlie and Harry predictably.

[Gointocarlton]

What irks me about Jones is that when he spoiled like that at Carlton he was penalised giving away free after free, and now he isn't!

You are dead set making that up.

[LP]

You are dead set making that up.

Go back and watch games like Jones(Carlton) versus Richmond or Geelong, versus Jones(Bulldogs) vs McKay or Charlie last weekend, he used body spoils last weekend that got him penalised when playing for us, he basically turned himself in a missile that canons into the opponents. But he'll smash himself and team-mates as much as he gets a result.

I don't care about the penalty or lack of it as long as it is applied the same way to all players.

I don't get why they get away with it against us, and on top of that go back and watch some of the spoils from Johannisen and Richards on SoJ and Charlie, straight out arm contact nowhere near the ball, no free kick. There is one from last weekend that is perfect vision, I think it was a Richards spoil on SoJ right over the top of the field umpires head, and he calls play on. At the other end Weiters or Gov brush an opponents arms and it's a free kick, Newman and Cincotta were both penalised at the other end for doing the same.

I see it primarily as a problem of the too many umpires, it leaves the decisions inconsistent because they can't all agree on what is legal or illegal.