AFL Rd 9 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

[Mav]

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t selected in the side to play the Dogs, so he’s not really germane to the preview.

[Gointocarlton]

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t selected in the side to play the Dogs, so he’s not really germane to the preview.

Who TDK? He played v the dogs, that's where he got the knock.

[LP]

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t selected in the side to play the Dogs, so he’s not really germane to the preview.

True by the "Carlton Ruck Setup vs English" debate is germaine, given English is one of the current AFL rucks on a hot streak.

[DJC]

True by the "Carlton Ruck Setup vs English" debate is germaine, given English is one of the current AFL rucks on a hot streak.

And, unlike our rucks, English causes problems when he goes forward.  Hopefully, Jack won’t be his opponent when he does go forward.

[pew2]

kennedy our new hero ,i cant see this he just another slow mid , only plays well when the team does but against good opposition he is EXPOSED

[ElwoodBlues1]

kennedy our new hero ,i cant see this he just another slow mid , only plays well when the team does but against good opposition he is EXPOSED

I like Kennedy but its become more obvious we have one too many of the slow moving mids vs some teams and need another mid who has some leg speed to give us some breakaway ability at stoppages. Kennedy can play forward with success and I still think he is a valuable player who can be used to multitask a bit more. As I have said many times for a different look down forward I wouldnt mind if we ran with one tall and Kennedy as that second leading target every now and then.

[LP]

I like Kennedy but its become more obvious we have one too many of the slow moving mids vs some teams and need another mid who has some leg speed to give us some breakaway ability at stoppages.

A couple of games this season our main problem has been the opposition HBF or HFF coming into bounces in sweeper type roles, and we are getting not much from our own HBF or HFF. Our guys on the perimeter must be prepared to sacrifice to cover for our Mids when we do not have things going our way! Some of it might be our guys not playing the footy that is in front of them, they second guess and guess wrong.

I noted it was a particular problem when Doc was moved into the Midfield and we have someone like Ed or Cowan off the HBF, or when Motlop is on the HFF sitting forward of the contest and not getting involved.

[DJC]

A couple of games this season our main problem has been the opposition HBF or HFF coming into bounces in sweeper type roles, and we are getting not much from our own HBF or HFF. Our guys on the perimeter must be prepared to sacrifice to cover for our Mids when we do not have things going our way! Some of it might be our guys not playing the footy that is in front of them, they second guess and guess wrong.

I noted it was a particular problem when Doc was moved into the Midfield and we have someone like Ed or Cowan off the HBF, or when Motlop is on the HFF sitting forward of the contest and not getting involved.

That sweeper role usually falls to Doc ... when he's playing in defence. 

[ElwoodBlues1]

A couple of games this season our main problem has been the opposition HBF or HFF coming into bounces in sweeper type roles, and we are getting not much from our own HBF or HFF. Our guys on the perimeter must be prepared to sacrifice to cover for our Mids when we do not have things going our way!

I noted it was a particular problem when Doc was moved into the Midfield and we have someone like Ed or Cowan off the HBF, or when Motlop is on the HFF sitting forward of the contest and not getting involved.

Fully agree.......imo you always have to even up the numbers and those players not doing anything have to be told to follow their man so they dont have that extra on the outside to run the ball through.
Lyon likes to do it with Sinclair and or course Nick Daicos has never manned up a half forward in his life as a defender because he is always that extra onballer/sweeper drifting down from half back.

[LP]

Lyon likes to do it with Sinclair and or course Nick Daicos has never manned up a half forward in his life as a defender because he is always that extra onballer/sweeper drifting down from half back.

I'm hope we see a bit of a change with Cottrell and Owies coming in this week, we at least know those two will have a crack at whatever is in front of them.

PS; I use to fear the repercussions of dropping Ed, the long term future of Charlie if Ed was dropped or delisted, but not anymore. After listening to Ed talk about the type of as5@h@l#s that it seems some of Charlies alleged suitors are, we've nothing to fear at all! These opponents that want to poach our players have painted us as sh1t, some of them quite actively doing so through unsolicited comment, but it seems compared to them as a club we've come up smelling like roses despite the coverage in the media!