Culture

[Mantis]

Recruit loser players and establish a losing culture.

Recruit competitive, win at all cost types and establish a winning culture.

Sounds too simple to actually work.  ;D

[Gointocarlton]

Recruit loser players and establish a losing culture.

Recruit competitive, win at all cost types and establish a winning culture.

Thats all well and good, but if the latter turn out to be DH's who don't to the line, its time to say adios amigos.

[PassIt2Carrots]

Thats all well and good, but if the latter turn out to be DH's who don't to the line, its time to say adios amigos.

I would say players with a history of not putting their body on the line, tackling and taking one for the team are far more damaging to any culture and certainly not towing the line. Culture starts on field, trying to correct it by punishing someone for off field misdemeanors, especially when they provide great culture on field is just dumb.

[Professer E]

100% carrots.  Every successful side has a few "characters" with questionable off field attitude/demeanour/activities...its what happens on the field that counts.  They just need to check the right boxes in regards topreparation and performance.

Just check out the recently successful Geelong, Hawks and Pies sides... they had more than a few "characters".

[JonHenry]

If we kicked out the players with off field issues and any so called "dickheads" in the 70's and 80's we would be short 3 or 4 flags

[madbluboy]

Just remember Robinson was sacked for lying, we let him get away with numerous off field incidents.

[ItsOurTime]

I would rather better players than both of them who aren't dickheads.

True but when we have to choose, we go with the wrong ones.

[Gointocarlton]

I would say players with a history of not putting their body on the line, tackling and taking one for the team are far more damaging to any culture and certainly not towing the line. Culture starts on field, trying to correct it by punishing someone for off field misdemeanors, especially when they provide great culture on field is just dumb.

So by the above definition, Jeffy was let go for all the right reasons as he is a serial ducker who sleeps with the lights on.

[thrunthrublu]

Carltons cultural problem is driven by its constitution

When you have board directors that have a guaranteed 12 years of sitting on the board things turn too slowly. ..we have directors like gleeson who are still on the board since pagans days...

this ^
the stench will never go away unless you get rid of the excrement.  Andrew Mckay included.

[PassIt2Carrots]

So by the above definition, Jeffy was let go for all the right reasons as he is a serial ducker who sleeps with the lights on.

Under Mick he became this definitely, was far from under the previous regime.