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AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda
A large part of our problem is a lack of continuity together.
While all our players get a fair few games each season it's a constant mix and match.

-We have half a dozen of our better players who are quite injury prone....some long term.
-We have others who are in and out of the side with minor injuries.
-How often does our best midfield take the field together
-How often does our best back six take the field together.
-In recent times how often has the side played 4 or 5 games together with just one or two changes...I doubt it's often, unless the injury toll is high and we have no suitable replacements.

Developing systems and stucture in that situation would be difficult.
As they line up each week they probably ask each other..."and who are you again?"
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(04-25-2023, 11:01 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Mistakes,  injuries, lapses, skill errors, poor I50 entry,  poor I50 pressure, vital goals missed.  Our story for a long time now and no indication imo that we are really overcoming these issues. We have systemic problems.

So true.  Since the rebuild began the problems you have outlined have remained a constant despite a large turnover in  players, several new coaches and many assistant coaches. 

It is demoralising for supporters and players alike.

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(04-25-2023, 11:01 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Mistakes,  injuries, lapses, skill errors, poor I50 entry,  poor I50 pressure, vital goals missed.  Our story for a long time now and no indication imo that we are really overcoming these issues. We have systemic problems.
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(04-26-2023, 12:12 AM)Lods link Wrote:A large part of our problem is a lack of continuity together.
While all our players get a fair few games each season it's a constant mix and match.

-We have half a dozen of our better players who are quite injury prone....some long term.
-We have others who are in and out of the side with minor injuries.
-How often does our best midfield take the field together
-How often does our best back six take the field together.
-In recent times how often has the side played 4 or 5 games together with just one or two changes...I doubt it's often, unless the injury toll is high and we have no suitable replacements.

Developing systems and stucture in that situation would be difficult.
As they line up each week they probably ask each other..."and who are you again?"
Other injury hit teams seem to be developing structures ok and fast....Stkilda have run without their two key forwards all year, have been missing their captain for 2-3 games as well...if we had Charlie, Harry and Crippa out we would all be screaming how unlucky we are but those teams like Stkilda and Collingwood with all their ruckman injured have found a way to win.
Those clubs in particular seem to have embraced setbacks and these inexperienced incoming players have stepped up to the plate...Owens, Caminiti, Frampton, Johnson, Hill.....etc.....why have Stkilda under Lyon been able to grasp his physically taxing game plan so quickly even all these unknown kids and spuds like Frampton who couldnt get a kick in a cow paddock at the Crows?
Whats the message at those clubs that makes these players want to fight out every game no matter what personnel are on the park....
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Personally, compared to last season when I think we were in form but lost games we should have won, this year is the exact opposite and we look sadly out of form but have managed to win games we should probably have lost!

I don't think it has much to do with injuries or MC, I think it's a form line issue.

Other than Cripps, and now it seems Walsh, I can't say anybody else has shown consistent output.

The good news, Cerra looked to be on the up last game, a couple of others were better like Newman and SoJ. It's a good sign as long as we can get them all singing from the same hymn book.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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Last year we were 4-2.
With losses to the Suns and Dockers  and 1 point win over Hawthorn and a 3 point win over Port.

We all got caught up in the moment but revisiting it we weren't that great.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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In terms of how we should be playing Saints game was best for the year.
So in other words playing like rubbish and still in top eight.
Small forwards have been worrying me for a long time and nothing past six games suggests won't be our weak-link again this year.
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St Kilda may well be a better team overall with King as the spearhead. But counterintuitively, his absence hurt us. Our 2 KPDs had no obvious matchups but we couldn’t omit Weets and/or Young in order to deal with St Kilda’s smaller forward line. You can’t disrupt your back 6 on a horses for courses basis - you have to allow your KPDs to try to deal with that situation as it may well crop up unexpectedly in games. And we didn’t have any small defenders demanding a spot anyway.
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(04-26-2023, 03:10 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Last year we were 4-2.
With losses to the Suns and Dockers  and 1 point win over Hawthorn and a 3 point win over Port.

We all got caught up in the moment but revisiting it we weren't that great.

Our game vs Sydney was top shelf until we let them back into the game.  Personally, some of our losses were way better than our wins.  I.e.  Collingwood x2, and the Melbourne game.  We played really well and shot ourselves in the foot by going to sleep when the games were there to be won in most of them.

We are on the right path.  If I cast my mind back, I seem to remember Richmond were the kings of stuffing around with the footy and kicking laterally out of the middle of the ground back in like 2011-2013 and were a complete rabble.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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Richmond were masters of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Reality always wins in the end.
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