General Discussions

[Lods]

There won't be many good footy players that can behave as they like without their body letting them down and its not up to the afl players to be superhuman and any different to society. 

Unlike Rock Stars   )

[Baggers]

See my thought process is different.

It's up to the education of young people to show them what is ultimately a good or bad decision, or what is a good or bad role model.  That doesn't mean shielding them from the reality that some people are loose cannons even if they can play footy well.  There won't be many good footy players that can behave as they like without their body letting them down and its not up to the afl players to be superhuman and any different to society. 

Perhaps keeping these things out of discussion is a better way to handle it, after all you only see fools getting done on video with white powders as opposed to the majority.  So how would anyone know what anyone's up to if not for the media?

I think it's both, 3 Leos. Principal LODS is absolutely right, as are you, IMHO.

In my experience of helping addicts, including cocaine addicts, it did not escape my attention that coke addicts had some 'perfect storm' elements in their lives - high stress job, periods of boredom and a high disposable income. Some young folks were going through $500 - $1500 per week/fortnight. Most blue collar folks stuck to grog, doobies, amphetamines and the like... or resorted to crime to support a coke or gambling habit.

[Thryleon]

Unlike Rock Stars   )

Exactly lods. My dad was a smoker and only drank the odd brandy when he was feeling unwell.  Chronic lymphocytic leukaemia got him via a treatment that somehow caused liver failure. 

Thats when I found out you can only go 2 weeks without a working liver before organ failure gets you.

Dusty Martin is idolised by many young folk, but they aren't going to go threatening people with chopsticks any time soon just because he did it.

@baggers yep it ain't a zero sum game but if the players aren't giving themselves a bad profile to go with their habit then supporting them by not ending their career is one way to help them right?  Another way might be to shield them from undue scrutiny.

[Gointocarlton]

Single biggest problem for me with all this stuff is that people dont properly own their mistakes. I have to give praise to the young Coll player Ginnivan who was the only person I can recall in recent history to come straight out and say yep, I'm a DH, I did drugs, I need to fix myself up, I need to earn the trust back . Every other prick blames the next prick or mental health, flat out denys it like Carey at the WA Casino or some other BS. Just own it and fix it.

[Baggers]

Single biggest problem for me with all this stuff is that people dont properly own their mistakes. I have to give praise to the young Coll player Ginnivan who was the only person I can recall in recent history to come straight out and say yep, I'm a DH, I did drugs, I need to fix myself up, I need to earn the trust back . Every other prick blames the next prick or mental health, flat out denys it like Carey at the WA Casino or some other BS. Just own it and fix it.

Spot on, GTC. Until you realise it aint everybody else's fault and to be accountable and take responsibility, you aint going to get anywhere... possibly worse. But once responsibility is accepted and meant, legitimate progress can be made and maintained.

[Gointocarlton]

Spot on, GTC. Until you realise it aint everybody else's fault and to be accountable and take responsibility, you aint going to get anywhere... possibly worse. But once responsibility is accepted and meant, legitimate progress can be made and maintained.

It seems to be that the ones in the public spotlight are the worst offenders as image is everything. Well I would respect them more if they owned it. As it stands, Carey for example can scream to me until he is blue in the face that the white powder in the bag was a blue anti inflammatory tablet crushed up to take with a meal, I aint buying that crap. Most of us  weren't born yesterday.

[ElwoodBlues1]

It seems to be that the ones in the public spotlight are the worst offenders as image is everything. Well I would respect them more if they owned it. As it stands, Carey for example can scream to me until he is blue in the face that the white powder in the bag was a blue anti inflammatory tablet crushed up to take with a meal, I aint buying that crap. Most of us  weren't born yesterday.

Aleve( Naproxen) the fast absorbing version which is also known as Naprosyn which is the base version in Aus...it comes with a blue enteric coating because its not real good for your stomach so it needs to be slow released. Its not meant to be crushed and it says so on the info notes.......

[LP]

Aleve( Naproxen) the fast absorbing version which is also known as Naprosyn which is the base version in Aus...it comes with a blue enteric coating because its not real good for your stomach so it needs to be slow released. Its not meant to be crushed and it says so on the info notes.......

In fairness to Carey, I've have a family member who was given the very same advice, after experiencing heartburn and indigestion my relative was told to crush the tablets and sprinkle the powder over food. But my relative didn't carry the crushed tablets around in a baggy, he just crushed them at the dinner table using the side of his cutlery.

[LP]

Sad news about Father Bob, a Filth supporter but otherwise a good bloke.

[Gointocarlton]

Sad news about Father Bob, a Filth supporter but otherwise a good bloke.

A lovely, genuine bloke who cared for the community and the less fortunate.