AFL Rd 4 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

[Thryleon]

Im not for a minute suggesting it was malicious EB, I agree it was clumsy, he put both forearms up and collected his head. Whilst I agree with you, incidents involving Zurhaar or other players are totally irrelevant w.r.t Harry's incident.

Ive said this in another thread, and I think we are better off playing a game without one of Charlie or Harry to understand what else is there just in case, that if he cops a week for that then every single head high contact must be sighted and taken to the tribunal.  Spoils are worse than what sheezel copped from Harry.

[LP]

We have to stick by our players, a KPP experiment is no reason not to challenge.

[Baggers]

We have to stick by our players, a KPP experiment is no reason not to challenge.

100% agree, Spotted One. If we have to 'experiment' through necessity (injury/suspension), okay. Otherwise we do everything in our power to support and stick by our lads... and keep the band together (channelling the Blues Bros.). Though I think I get where 3 Leos is coming from in attempting to put a positive on the potential of losing H for a game.

[blueboys_1]

Ive said this in another thread, and I think we are better off playing a game without one of Charlie or Harry to understand what else is there just in case, that if he cops a week for that then every single head high contact must be sighted and taken to the tribunal.  Spoils are worse than what sheezel copped from Harry.

I see what you mean however I think we have been virtually playing with only one of them as Harry was basically not there for the first 3 games, considering his output.

[northernblue]

I see what you mean however I think we have been virtually playing with only one of them as Harry was basically not there for the first 3 games, considering his output.

Marking everything in sight in the last 1/4 of the tiggers game wasn’t enough on its own ?

[PaulP]

Coaches' votes :

9 Harry McKay (CARL)
9 Charlie Curnow (CARL)
3 Mitch McGovern (CARL)
3 Harry Sheezel (NMFC)
2 Cameron Zurhaar (NMFC)
2 Zac Fisher (CARL)
1 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
1 Luke Davies-Uniacke (NMFC)

[crashlander]

Marking everything in sight in the last 1/4 of the tiggers game wasn’t enough on its own ?

H hasn't been playing badly: he's just not kicking goals. He took a huge number of marks in the first two games, but kicked poorly and didn't have a great number of marks close to goal. He only thing he did wrong against Richmond was fall over and not take the mark from O'Brien's kick.
Looking at his goal-kicking yips, it is probably good he has been getting kicks further away from goal.

[Thryleon]

Coaches' votes :

9 Harry McKay (CARL)
9 Charlie Curnow (CARL)
3 Mitch McGovern (CARL)
3 Harry Sheezel (NMFC)
2 Cameron Zurhaar (NMFC)
2 Zac Fisher (CARL)
1 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
1 Luke Davies-Uniacke (NMFC)

So one coach liked fishers game worthy of giving him 2 votes. 

Interesting.

[Lods]

So one coach liked fishers game worthy of giving him 2 votes. 

Interesting.

It would tell a bit of a story depending which coach.
Assuming it's Voss, then Zac had some key goals and roles for the game which he more than met.
Sometimes the worth of a player's contribution is overlooked by 'us' who have little idea about the role they've actually been asked to play.
Not many of us would have Fisher as our fourth best player on the weekend.
Without looking back I think some even called for him to be dropped.

On the other hand, if it's Clarkson he might have just thrown in a smoky.
Taking the piss.
Our coaches may be scratching their heads and thinking what did Clarkson see that we didn't.
They'll be tossing it over until selection night.
He's a devious little bugger.

(P.S. I'm sure it was Voss)

(Just had a look at the Jim Park and a couple of folks gave Fisher votes- DJC, Blue Moon. So they get it.)

[townsendcalling]

This is where the B&F voting is always interesting. Players get votes for fulfilling their role on the day.....not just the stats that they accumulate. (e.g. Lachie Plowman over the years).

I'm sure that Fish was given specific instructions and, from the coaches' point of view, they were all carried out as asked. Sometimes there are things going on in the backroom that we are unaware of ..........and neither we should be!!