AFL Rd 2 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

[madbluboy]

TDK was great in that aspect on Thursday, reminded me a bit of Kreuzer.

[WASurfer]

Late to the party but was over there last week and at the game on Thursday night! Wow....the noise was deafening from a very pro-Carlton crowd. Cameron nearly got them over the line and we couldn't get a match up for him in the end....but everyone else lifted in that last quarter when we were under the hammer. Our 3rd quarter was as exciting as some of those early games last year...and against quality opposition too.

A few observations...apologies if covered elsewhere in this thread:

1. The TDK/Pittonet combination needs to stay, barring injury. They worked well together and TDK going forward at times will test a lot of backlines. It also frees up Silvagni to roam the forward line as a mobile 3rd forward without the added pressure of then having to ruck at times.
2. I was sceptical about playing the 4 smalls....Durdin, Motlop, Fisher and Owies....but they all chipped in and hit the scoreboard. Motlop was really good early on and goes in hard. Great to have Durdin back and Owies was clinical in front of goals. They combined for 6 goals.
3. Like most, wasn't sure about Ed getting games this year but his last quarter was huge when the pressure was on.
4. Acres was average at best last week, but geez he played well and took some good contested marks. The combination of him and Hollands looks really promising. I was sitting on the wing about 20 rows from the fence and Holland's running was impressive....he was everywhere in the first quarter.
5. In 2 games, Cowan looks more reliable by foot and more composed than Plowman already. Hard to see Plowman coming back in any time soon.
6. Our backline is really building nicely. Saad is elite and has proved that first round pick was well worth giving up to get him.

Hypothetical question.....if both Hewett AND Walsh were fit this week, who would be the unlucky 2 players going out? McGovern was ordinary again at times on Thursday night, but structurally he's important down back so I doubt he'd go out for one of them unless they think Docherty can play as the third tall defender and not go through the midfield. And I wouldn't be rushing Jack Martin back anytime soon either.

[PaulP]

Coaches' votes :

9 - Jeremy Cameron (GEEL)
9 - Charlie Curnow (CARL)
6 - Adam Saad (CARL)
2 - Ed Curnow (CARL)
2 - Jacob Weitering (CARL)
1 - Blake Acres (CARL)
1 - Isaac Smith (GEEL)

[kruddler]

By what measure do you actually think Silvagni is performing well in the ruck?

Not sure i ever said he was performing well.

He is adequate.

In such a specialist position it hurts you if you can't 'hide' extra rucks in other positions, he solves that problem.

I'm happy to sacrifice a handful of hitouts to advantage (if its even that much) for the benefits an extra midfielder gives us for team balance.

[Lods]

I just genuinely think he's a bit flat, and not at his best at the moment....so that's why I'm thinking his spot may be in danger.
Not to say he can't turn that around.
It will depend on the roles he's given... and it could turn around very quickly.

[kruddler]

I just genuinely think he's a bit flat, and not at his best at the moment....so that's why I'm thinking his spot may be in danger.
Not to say he can't turn that around.
It will depend on the roles he's given... and it could turn around very quickly.

He is not at his best....but there are plenty in that boat.

Across 2 games....
-------- Dsp-M-M50-I50-T-G.B.-GA-1%- Clg-TOG
Player A - 18 - 6 - 2 - 4 - 3 - 1.2 - 2 - 4- 4 - 75.5%
Player B - 23 -16 - 3 - 7 - 2 - 2.3 - 1 - 5 - 5 - 93.5%
Player C - 23 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 4 - 4.1 - 1 - 0 - 8 - 72%
Player D - 22 - 7 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 1.0 - 1 - 1 - 4 - 76.5%

Who deserves to be dropped?
Who deserves to be persisted with?
Who is borderline?

FWIW, all 4 players are forwards.

[kruddler]

For those playing at home....

A: Silvagni
B: McKay
C: Owies
D: Motlop

[madbluboy]

Not sure i ever said he was performing well.

He is adequate.

In such a specialist position it hurts you if you can't 'hide' extra rucks in other positions, he solves that problem.

I'm happy to sacrifice a handful of hitouts to advantage (if its even that much) for the benefits an extra midfielder gives us for team balance.

He's not an extra midfielder

[madbluboy]

Not sure i ever said he was performing well.

He is adequate.

In such a specialist position it hurts you if you can't 'hide' extra rucks in other positions, he solves that problem.

I'm happy to sacrifice a handful of hitouts to advantage (if its even that much) for the benefits an extra midfielder gives us for team balance.

He's not an extra midfielder

[Lods]

He is not at his best....but there are plenty in that boat.

Across 2 games....
-------- Dsp-M-M50-I50-T-G.B.-GA-1%- Clg-TOG
Player A - 18 - 6 - 2 - 4 - 3 - 1.2 - 2 - 4- 4 - 75.5%
Player B - 23 -16 - 3 - 7 - 2 - 2.3 - 1 - 5 - 5 - 93.5%
Player C - 23 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 4 - 4.1 - 1 - 0 - 8 - 72%
Player D - 22 - 7 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 1.0 - 1 - 1 - 4 - 76.5%

Who deserves to be dropped?
Who deserves to be persisted with?
Who is borderline?

FWIW, all 4 players are forwards.

Yep, but all have different roles and responsibilities.
So the stats are just a part of the story.
It will be interesting to see who, if any, does go out.
If Hewett doesn't come up, it may be no change.