Harry and Megan

[PaulP]

The Egan story has been raised in the relevant "Trouble at Hawthorn" thread.  I'm not sure why it was raised here  :-\

Right.

[LP]

People might mistake my position as being unsupportive of the disadvantaged, persecuted or downtrodden, quite the opposite.

There must be a solid foundation for change or it will unravel,  I'm not prepared to accept a quick fix off the back of potential fraud as the risk is too high.

The evidence must be beyond reproach, it can't be in any way subjective or illusory, opinions no matter how many are gathered on either side of the debate mean nothing! Not just on this issue, but for all important issues.

[Lods]

One thing is for sure and certain....Harry doesn't have much of a 'filter' for his thoughts and recollections. :

[LP]

One thing is for sure and certain....Harry doesn't have much of a 'filter' for his thoughts and recollections. :

I think Harry turned off his thunkin a long long long time ago!

[Gointocarlton]

One thing is for sure and certain....Harry doesn't have much of a 'filter' for his thoughts and recollections. :

I found his thoughts and recollections raw and intriguing. I like the no holds barred attitude from him, about time someone from the "institution" did it. As he stated, he was sick and tired of others commenting on his life story which was full of BS, he is telling it from the horses mouth (apologies to Camilla however pun intended).

[Lods]

I found his thoughts and recollections raw and intriguing. I like the no holds barred attitude from him, about time someone from the "institution" did it. As he stated, he was sick and tired of others commenting on his life story which was full of BS, he is telling it from the horses mouth (apologies to Camilla however pun intended).

No doubt they're raw and intriguing.

But he's probably Number One on the Taliban hit parade....with a bullet. :

[Gointocarlton]

No doubt they're raw and intriguing.

But he's probably Number One on the Taliban hit parade....with a bullet. :

He ain't at the front of that queue Ill give you the tip.

[Baggers]

I found his thoughts and recollections raw and intriguing. I like the no holds barred attitude from him, about time someone from the "institution" did it. As he stated, he was sick and tired of others commenting on his life story which was full of BS, he is telling it from the horses mouth (apologies to Camilla however pun intended).

Well said.

What I see is a very hurt young man; a young man who at a critical stage of his development lost his mother in tragic circumstances and in the 'family' he was in, keeping a stiff upper lip with no public displays of grief, was paramount. Then he had to live with the fact his father married the woman he was having an affair with whilst married to his mother - betrayal. Then Harry joined the military and fought in war zones... so he learned to fight back. And he's doing just that. Then he saw his partner/wife attacked by the 'family' and media similar to his mother - powder keg.

However, I did find Harry's comments re the 25 people he killed as very unwise.

[Lods]

However, I did find Harry's comments re the 25 people he killed as very unwise.

That was the type of thing I mean't by 'filter'.
The other thing is he's throwing bombs and then having to  backtrack.
In one breath Camilla is the 'villain' and the next he's saying he wasn't 'disparaging' about his stepmother.
Apparently there was no accusation of racism about their newborn on the Oprah show. It was an 'unconscious bias' by some individuals...something Harry himself was guilty of at times in his life. That's taken a bit of time to clarify...it was all the press's fault for misinterpreting it.

I have a bit of sympathy for him. He's had this conflicting life where he was torn between the strict Royal side of his family and the more unrestricted, albeit still aristocratic, influence of his mother's side of the family.
The truth is if he ever was suited for that Royal role, he no longer is.

If he wanted real change in the monarchy it would have been best to try and change it from the inside. He'll say he tried, but that type of thing is a lifelong battle.  All he's doing from the outside is alienating a large section of British public opinion, and he's taken on the most unwisest task of all in challenging the british press.
His father is right.
It's a battle he can't and won't win.
The fightback from their point of view hasn't even begun.

Harry will say it reached the point where it was no longer possible to stay, but having left the family and country he's now  gone full attack. That may gain him some sympathy in places like the USA, Canada and Australia. The rest of the world won't care (unless they're directly referenced e.g. Afghanistan). It won't be as popular in the UK.

Harry talks about 'his truth'. He knows the way the family works that they won't respond directly with 'their truth' (although some sources 'close to the palace' will no doubt throw a few grenades.)
That's the problem  'Harry's truth' + 'the family's truth' = 'the real truth'
We only have one side of the equation so we don't have the answer.

In any family relation there are always two sides of a story, two points of view, that may vary due to personal experiences and how they affected each individual.
Position in the family and memories of certain events can also make people see things very differently. I know through disagreements with my own family that recollection and reasons for events aren't always the same.

Harry's next move will be interesting.
Having put it all out there, if there is no response from the family (which seems likely) will he move on, or is there still more to come.

[LP]

Harry's next move will be interesting.
Having put it all out there, if there is no response from the family (which seems likely) will he move on, or is there still more to come.

The Harkles have left themselves only one direction to go in, it's "all in" now with no way to circle back!

If I was cynical, and I might be known for being slightly cynical, I suspect the Harkles are trying to setup Megan as some sort of "US
Monarch of the Minorites", "Queen of Aspen" a sort of up market Kardashian. But the question is, will a society that was built of revolution accept a monarch? To me it's a huge gamble as I see no middle ground, they will either succeed or be consigned to the rubbish heap of history! They are probably doomed to fade into obscurity much like Edward and Wallis before them.