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Russian Ukraine War
#51
An interesting analysis of the early stages of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and its implications for NATO:

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/pu...-july-2022

Note that operational security requirements make it testimony rather than an academic study.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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#52
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/ru...0a76bb?amp
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#53
Vertigo?

Who knows.  How believable these reports are anyway.

I maintain we are on a collision course with world war 3, and that most of the attacks we are facing are all in cyber land.

Just got to hope, its not too serious when it all happens in earnest, and my advise to everyone is whilst I wouldnt be doomsday prepping at this stage, ensure you have a grasp on what it takes to grow some food in your back yard just in case.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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#54
I'd take a lot of the Putin health stuff with a grain of salt.
Some of it may be true, but it's just as likely a bit of propaganda.
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#55
Some people I know are taking the threat very seriously and have actually stocked up on Iodine tablets. Amazing! Well to me it is.
Reality always wins in the end.
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#56
(12-05-2022, 11:16 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:Some people I know are taking the threat very seriously and have actually stocked up on Iodine tablets. Amazing! Well to me it is.
Hmm, this isn't radium gas leaking into a basement or caesium in sea water, iodine isn't generally going to help you much beyond giving you some hope for a few hours or days. In reality is a bit of a myth, something of a Cold War era rumour spread to make foot soldiers willing to enter harms way. Take this tablet, you'll be fine!

In fact it's more likely the people who stockpile iodine will end up overdosing on it and harm themselves with iodine poisoning, which ironically leads to thyroid cancer.
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#57
I'm not going to paint anyone as a victim, villain, or anything of recourse, but I just want to highlight that things are only getting worse and whilst this might be a fire across the bows to highlight that Russia does in fact have something to lose here, if I were in the Russian's shoes, I would be hesitant to back away from this conflict (win or lose).

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/exp...43f184efa2

If I were in their shoes, rightly or wrongly, I would be infuriated at having had my enemies armed by my own enemies, and would likely only escalate my acts, and then galvanise my resolve not to lose this war, "whatever it takes".

That's a very dangerous for everyone mode for the Russians to be in. 

I do empathise with the Ukrainians under fire.  No one wants to be in a war and i wonder what the true motivation for all of this is.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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#58
(12-06-2022, 03:09 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I'm not going to paint anyone as a victim, villain, or anything of recourse, but I just want to highlight that things are only getting worse and whilst this might be a fire across the bows to highlight that Russia does in fact have something to lose here, if I were in the Russian's shoes, I would be hesitant to back away from this conflict (win or lose).

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/exp...43f184efa2

If I were in their shoes, rightly or wrongly, I would be infuriated at having had my enemies armed by my own enemies, and would likely only escalate my acts, and then galvanise my resolve not to lose this war, "whatever it takes".

That's a very dangerous for everyone mode for the Russians to be in. 

I do empathise with the Ukrainians under fire.  No one wants to be in a war and i wonder what the true motivation for all of this is.

If you were in their shoes Thry, I doubt whether you would have invaded your neighbour's property, even if he had a better pool and veggie garden.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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#59
(12-05-2022, 09:59 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'd take a lot of the Putin health stuff with a grain of salt.
Some of it may be true, but it's just as likely a bit of propaganda.
Your take was the same as mine, propoganda.

To me it smacks of schoolboy tactics to defame someone you don't like.

IF it were true, how did it get out?
It wouldn't.
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#60
(12-06-2022, 04:28 AM)DJC link Wrote:If you were in their shoes Thry, I doubt whether you would have invaded your neighbour's property, even if he had a better pool and veggie garden.

You are not wrong DJC. 

Id probably grow my own veggies, then offer some up in a trade, along with an offer of a BBQ at my place or bringing some drinks over and having a chill at theirs.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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