General Discussions

[kruddler]

Correct profiling wouldn't be prejudiced, remembering that prejudice is to judge another unfairly based on... etc. Profiling more relies pure objectivity and consistencies with previous similar crimes. Once judgement and assessment becoming influenced by prejudice I believe it is no longer profiling... just some bigoted pr1ck attempting to force a fit to satisfy his/her twisted beliefs.

Correct as in done correctly? Or Correct as in gets the bad guy based off the profile?

Its a path i don't really want to go down, because arguing devils advocate will get you labelled a racist in this instance.

[kruddler]

Maybe you heard storm warnings even though you didn’t dwell on them on a conscious level?

Oh you talk about sub-conscious and its acceptable.
I say it and its wrong?! 

[Mav]

Oh you talk about sub-conscious and its acceptable.
I say it and its wrong?! 

I’ve always included sub-conscious observations as being part of intuition:

To me intuition is the opposite of evidence-free assumptions. It is very useful when the decision-maker is flooded with observations or information, perhaps some of it contradictory, and trying to analyse each piece of information and weigh it formally will lead to decision paralysis. The decision-maker synthesises all of the information in a rational way although he or she might not be able to explain how to an observer. For example, someone might feel that they’ve entered a dangerous environment because they have observed certain things that they might not register on a conscious level or be able to articulate. That’s the classic, “I have a bad feeling about this” moment.

If you think I’ve criticised you for making the same point, direct me to the relevant post and I’ll comment further.

[kruddler]

If you think I’ve criticised you for making the same point, direct me to the relevant post and I’ll comment further.

....the majority of people. Sometimes sub-consciously. Thus getting a feel for a situation without exactly knowing why - hence gut instinct and/or intuition.

You replied - "as i described", implying you reject my take on it.

[Mav]

The actual words were “As I described above” and I was referring to the quote in my last post. I was saying I agreed with you, that we were on the same page.

[kruddler]

The actual words were “As I described above” and I was referring to the quote in my last post. I was saying I agreed with you, that we were on the same page.

Which seems to contradict your previous statements then.  :-\

I feel like we are in an endless loop.  :-X

[Thryleon]

Thryleon, perhaps I assumed that you regarded intuition as applying past experience after gathering enough information to understand how similar the new situation is. If you regard intuition as applying past experience without doing so, then we’re definitely on different sides of the argument. As the old saying goes, if you only have a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.

Thing is im not in the argument.  I was actually thinking about troubleshooting IT issues when thinking about intuition.

Thing is I'm a bit of a subject matter expert with that so my gut and instincrs are honed on years of repeating a similar process to get to a result and having to think of a process of elimination as you go.

The instinct works well when judging a humans nature but you need to actually get to know the human to do so.

Anyway im enjoying living in the philosophical side of this and stand by my original comment about the cheese.

Irrespective of what it's called its still crap cheese!

[Mav]

Kruddler, I don’t agree. I’m talking about sub-conscious observations not sub-conscious biases. In other words, observations that make a person feel that something isn’t right without being something he or she can put his or her finger on immediately. Maybe an alert cop will pick out someone impersonating a cop because of a gun worn on the wrong side or a uniform being a slightly wrong colour. That’s the sort of thing that can lead to a gut feeling that demands further investigation. But it is based on observation or evidence rather than a mindset that all of a particular subset of a population are suspect.

[Baggers]

Maybe you heard storm warnings even though you didn’t dwell on them on a conscious level? Or maybe you had some nagging concerns which had nothing to do with the weather but they saved you from it by pure luck?  If not, maybe you are clairvoyant! In which case, send me some numbers for the next Powerball draw!

It was way before Tracy that the swap draft took place after my 'intuition', so weather didn't come into it (besides, I love stormy weather). There could have been some unconscious doubts at play... don't know, consciously I loved Darwin and was wrapped at going there to live.
If I was clairvoyant... I can assure you Mrs Baggers and I would be swimming in Tattslotto winnings!

How about this one:
And this could be easy for those on here to relate to. Us v Rottingwood last year. We are down at 3/4 time and looking ordinary, no evidence/reason for any optimism. For reasons completely unknown to me I announced on this forum that we would win and that H would kick 4 in the last qtr, and nothing in H's performance to that time would indicate he'd kick 1 goal let alone 4... precisely 4.

K... this happens to moi more times than I'd like to admit. I don't like it one bit, even scares the cr@p out of me at times.

[Mav]

Makes me think of the Front Bar. Radar would be saying “gamble responsibly” while Mick would be saying, “No, it can’t lose: bet your house on it!” If You’d listened to Mick, you’d be a rich man