Russian Ukraine War

[cookie2]

Looks like tentative moves being made towards possibly opening negotiations. Let's hope so.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Do we really think Putin (or anyone else for that matter) is insane enough to go Nuclear? I personally don't think anyone is, perhaps I'm just naïve.

KJs sister is a lunatic and I reckon Putin and his mate who he handed power too when he was indisposed are also crazy enough.Any peace with Putin will come at a price imho...

[Gointocarlton]

Zelensky was in Kherson today...
You would think if Russian intelligence was any good it would have been the perfect time for a strike, (not necesarily nuclear)
It's all a bit bizarre.

I tend to think that countries like Russia and China whilst populous aren't that smart. Lots of huff and puff and intimidation but...

[Gointocarlton]

KJs sister is a lunatic and I reckon Putin and his mate who he handed power too when he was indisposed are also crazy enough.Any peace with Putin will come at a price imho...

Putin is gonski on the world stage whether he pulls a nuke out or not. I still dont reckon that anyone on the planet in 2022 or beyond has the balls to go nuclear. IMO If anyone did, they would be obliterated from the map by the Worlds retaliation and everyone (insane or not) knows it.

[DJC]

Putin’s absence from the G20 meeting is interesting, and it has nothing to do with Abbott finally making good on his threat to shirtfront Putin.

Putin is concerned about humiliation on the international stage, a coup while he’s out of the country, and/or assassination.

[DJC]

S-300 missiles have caused deaths in Poland.  Both Russia and Ukraine use S-300 surface to air missiles; Russia’s missile shortage and low air defence requirements mean that they are using S-300 missiles in a surface to surface role. Ukraine uses them against Russian cruise missiles. At this stage, it’s not known whether the missiles that struck Poland were Russian or Ukrainian.  Either way, Poland is on full alert and is consulting with its NATO allies.

This may be a wayward missile or it may be a deliberate strike.  Putin has continually warned that he can expand the conflict in response to the West’s support for Ukraine.  This could be the first shot in an expanded conflict.

Let’s hope not!

[cookie2]

Stuff up by Ukraine apparently.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Stuff up by Ukraine apparently.

I believe Ukraine also fired a missile by accident into Romania early on in the war and Romanian jets were scrambled but failed to get off the ground in time and the missile luckily hit nothing but travelled a fair way.
NATO were not that impressed with the lack lustre Romanian response.

[DJC]

I understand that the missile’s trajectory indicates that it wasn’t fired from Russia.  In that case, it was fired by Ukraine or by Russian occupying forces.

I wonder if the potential strike zone of a surface to air missile that misses its target is factored in as part of the firing solution.  I suspect not, given the ability of SAMs to follow the target’s changes of course.  It’s probably very fortunate that there haven’t been more casualties in neighbouring countries.

[LP]

I understand that the missile’s trajectory indicates that it wasn’t fired from Russia.  In that case, it was fired by Ukraine or by Russian occupying forces.

I wonder if the potential strike zone of a surface to air missile that misses its target is factored in as part of the firing solution.  I suspect not, given the ability of SAMs to follow the target’s changes of course.  It’s probably very fortunate that there haven’t been more casualties in neighbouring countries.

They have to be modified to hit ground targets, I believe they self-destruct in air after missing a target.