RIP Queen Elizabeth II

[Thryleon]

So we should all pack up and screw off?

pretty much.

Ive stated on here many times.  They aren't interested in a united australia they want their lost future back.

[LP]

Ive stated on here many times.  They aren't interested in a united australia they want their lost future back.

I think there are extremists on both sides, and to some degree they get more attention because they are almost always the ones making the most noise.

It's possibly the fault of the moderates on both sides of the debate for not speaking up and reigning them in!

So I partly agree with your observation, but it is symmetrical, it applies equally both ways to a small but very noisy minority.

[ElwoodBlues1]

If there was a cricket test match being played in Australia, there would have been a minutes silence as a bare minimum.
The monarchy may not be the future but if you really believe in being inclusive then you have to respect the past and a lot of Anzacs gave their lives for Queen and country and it's disrespecting them imho.
Feck the commercial and political aspects and just do the right thing imho.Give her a minute and then move on.
If a fractured country like South Africa can give her a day then we can give her a minute.

[LP]

If a fractured country like South Africa can give her a day then we can give her a minute.

Yes, it's a good example, there are those who wish to drive a wedge at any cost, we should not let them.

It reminds me a bit of the take a knee stuff, some tried to paint those who didn't as racist, yet it was clear in many examples the message was united despite the variety of responses, and the reasons far or against were far more complex than those who want to divide like to make out.

[Mav]

Juxtaposing opposing cultures doesn’t foster unity. Perhaps we should require Pride events to include representation for religious fundamentalists to state their opposition to the sinful behaviour of that community. Maybe BLM protesters should be forced to march side-by-side with white supremacists. After all, what a wonderful message of unity that would send.

Expecting indigenous Australians to share their Round with the head of the empire that colonised their lands is bizarre. It does nothing to unify the country. It equates to putting the onus on indigenous Australians to “forgeddabouddit”.

Anyway, the AFL can hold a minute’s silence at the 2 AFL preliminary finals. Not doing it before AFLW games is not a sign of disrespect: it’s the best way to prevent signs of disrespect.

[cookie2]

Just heard that the funeral date will be set to fit in with the Brownlow. Or was it the other way around? ?

[Thryleon]

People don't die every day, and im confident indigenous round could have been moved if they didn't want to share it, and they could have worn the indigenous jumpers an extra week.

Or should they do a minutes silence next week instead?

Personally I dont care really.  The royal family have been irrelevant since voting for a prime minister became a thing and thats not even here in Australia its over in Britain.

[Mav]

The monarchy may not be the future but if you really believe in being inclusive then you have to respect the past and a lot of Anzacs gave their lives for Queen and country and it's disrespecting them imho.

I thought many of them gave their lives to defeat Hitler’s Nazis and stop the Japanese invading. They certainly didn’t do it for Liz as she wasn’t the Queen at that stage. I wonder whether they’ve stopped turning in their graves after we dumped “God Save the King” as our national anthem.

[LP]

[member=122]Mav[/member] you're deliberately inverting the argument, and fabricating the promotion what is a rather minor and very momentary event to to a point of total domination. This isn't sharing indigenous round, it's not even sharing the game.

As I pointed out, it would be as absurd as banning the welcome to country on the Queen's Birthday round.

What is the reason, why do you want this divide?

[LP]

I thought many of them gave their lives to defeat Hitler’s Nazis and stop the Japanese invading. They certainly didn’t do it for Liz as she wasn’t the Queen at that stage. I wonder whether they’ve stopped turning in their graves after we dumped “God Save the King” as our national anthem.

There is a bit of irony in your making that point, didn't they (the Anzacs) defend the indigenous as well, or was it that the indigenous did not want or need a defence?

Despite being itself under attack, Britain did send resources and share technologies to aid in Australia's defence, as did the USA and other Allies, as far as I know they didn't exclude anyone.