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AFL Rd 23 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Collingwood
#81
You certainly need some luck in those tight games - Elliott is a class act, but that last shot, on the run from the left pocket (for a right footer) could have easily missed, and he would have been roasted for burning both Ginnivan (about 10m to his right) and Mihochek, who was close to the goal square.
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#82
Just watched Jobe Watson talk about how Dons are operating in silos. Calling the club "dysfunctional"
Won't take away today's disappointment but might give some a giggle?
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.
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#83
In the cold hard light of day when the dust settles, trying going back to preseason, or 12 months ago and rate our top 25 players out of 10 and redo it now.  Docherty and Curnow were pure speculation, nothing more, Cottrell was not in anyone's top 22, O'Brien was nowhere, Young was 'break glass in emergency', Marchbank was miles away, Cripps was 'gone'......
We have shown significant improvement, players have a red hot crack and our fans just love to go to the football these days! Cookie, Vossy, Crippa we are looking in anticipation already!!
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#84
(08-21-2022, 11:06 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:In the cold hard light of day when the dust settles, trying going back to preseason, or 12 months ago and rate our top 25 players out of 10 and redo it now.  Docherty and Curnow were pure speculation, nothing more, Cottrell was not in anyone's top 22, O'Brien was nowhere, Young was 'break glass in emergency', Marchbank was miles away, Cripps was 'gone'......
We have shown significant improvement, players have a red hot crack and our fans just love to go to the football these days! Cookie, Vossy, Crippa we are looking in anticipation already!!

Measured assessment. I couldn't agree more. I'm keen to see what my ladder prediction was before the season started. If I made one that is ?
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.
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#85
(08-21-2022, 11:06 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:In the cold hard light of day when the dust settles, trying going back to preseason, or 12 months ago and rate our top 25 players out of 10 and redo it now.  Docherty and Curnow were pure speculation, nothing more, Cottrell was not in anyone's top 22, O'Brien was nowhere, Young was 'break glass in emergency', Marchbank was miles away, Cripps was 'gone'......
We have shown significant improvement, players have a red hot crack and our fans just love to go to the football these days! Cookie, Vossy, Crippa we are looking in anticipation already!!

Thats the way I feel - the team has developed over the past 12 months. Understand some people want to blow up the club but the improvement has been good now we just need continuity with our players on the ground and not continuity on hospital beds.
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#86
(08-21-2022, 11:06 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:In the cold hard light of day when the dust settles, trying going back to preseason, or 12 months ago and rate our top 25 players out of 10 and redo it now.  Docherty and Curnow were pure speculation, nothing more, Cottrell was not in anyone's top 22, O'Brien was nowhere, Young was 'break glass in emergency', Marchbank was miles away, Cripps was 'gone'......
We have shown significant improvement, players have a red hot crack and our fans just love to go to the football these days! Cookie, Vossy, Crippa we are looking in anticipation already!!

Great post and I’d go further by saying that Hewitt, Saad, Durdin, Motlop and TDK all exceeded my limited expectations this year.

We do however need to urgently address our lack of durability -  whilst Weitering was unlucky this year, we simply can’t continue to carry all of Marchbank, Williams, Martin, McGovern, Cunningham & Honey if they can’t get their bodies right. We may need to seriously consider trading out the injury prone for more durability, whilst also having a thorough look at Andrew Russell’s programme.

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#87
I would have preferred getting thumped today.  The way this one ended was way more heart breaking. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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#88
(08-21-2022, 11:06 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:In the cold hard light of day when the dust settles, trying going back to preseason, or 12 months ago and rate our top 25 players out of 10 and redo it now.  Docherty and Curnow were pure speculation, nothing more, Cottrell was not in anyone's top 22, O'Brien was nowhere, Young was 'break glass in emergency', Marchbank was miles away, Cripps was 'gone'......
We have shown significant improvement, players have a red hot crack and our fans just love to go to the football these days! Cookie, Vossy, Crippa we are looking in anticipation already!!

Some improvement, yes. But the reality is that at the end of the season we still have the same problem we began with, and no obvious answer, namely, an inability to play four consistent quarters of football - and anything more than half a game seems beyond us.

It begs the question: which came first , the chicken or the egg?  Is it the lack of football skills such as tackling , general field kicking and kicking for goal etc, causing the problem, or is it a team mental fragility on display every week which causes the players to wilt at the first sign of pressure which then translates to some  or all of their football skills falling away and consequently losing close matches?

Too many of our small forwards, with the exception of Motlop because of the few matches he has played, disappear when Charlie and Big H are held, and under pressure they kick poorly, make stupid decisions, and seem to have made little or no improvement this year.  I am thinking of Fisher, Owies and Durdin.

If there is no improvement from them or their replacements then we are not going to improve our position next year.

Another problem is Pittonet.  In any top four side he would be considered a second string ruckman.  He is at best able to break even with the opposition but is not good enough to give our mids consistent first use of the ball.  He desperately needs assistance

Let's hope Voss is on top of these problems otherwise 2023 could be a repeat of this year.



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#89
Does anybody have a link to the Voss press conference?

The club is always mysteriously slow in following up on social media after a loss...
"...that's the thing about opinion - you don't have to know anything to have one..."  Andre Agassi commenting on Pat Cash 2004
"...the less you know - the more you believe..." - Bono 2006
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#90
Ruck and medium forwards are 2 big deficiencies we have on our list.
If Goldy from north or Bruest or Gunston are gettable and not on big dollars I would seriously consider them for a few years. One of the hawthorn forwards would be a big advantage in tight games - we have no winners on our list. Not one. I reckon that very point was the reason today and last week we lost.
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