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AFL Rd 22 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
#71
I wouldn't trust Martin to run longer than 10 minutes before breaking down.  He's lost any trust and I wouldn't be picking him this week. 
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
#72
(08-10-2022, 10:06 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We have the reigning Coleman medalist and another one currently leading.
How do Melbourne stop that?

Dees are bigger than us, and you want to go taller?
IMO, we go faster.

Oliver and Petracca are not going to chase too many players down, so we play through their men.
Put Fisher in the guts.
If Martin is fit, use him through there.
Play Carroll.
Free up Saad and let him play on a wing. RUN RUN RUN.

Do that, and they won't be able to setup behind the ball and we'll allow our assets in McKay and Curnow 1 on 1 opportunities, and they won't be stopped.

Yes, going small/fast means that we will lose the clearances, but Dees don't have a good forward line, and we have a good defence, so back ourselves in to stop their entries, and hurt them on the rebound with speed and run.

Motlop, Durdin, Owies, Lob, Walsh, Cottrell, Carroll, Martin.....run run run.

If we wanna be a finals team, we lay down for no team. We make them beat us.
we aren't a quick side though.  Their run is a strength.  Langdon, Salem, hunt are all very fast and hard runners. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
#73
Taking into account form, injuries, what's at stake etc., beating the Demons will be the upset of the year IMO.
#74
Given Martin's long history of calf issues, the fact he came off last week with "calf tightness" makes him an incredible risk to get through a game...leave him out IMO.

Melbourne don't have a dominant key forward but rely on goals from the likes of Fritsch, Pickett, Harmes and the like. Fritsch is the worry as I can't see an ideal match up for him.

I think Charlie and Harry can more than match it with May/Lever and probably outmark them....issue will be getting it in the middle to begin with, then finding someone who can use it quick enough and well enough to get it down there.
#75
(08-10-2022, 07:33 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Who are the big brutish forwards that Melbourne have, that require Weitering and Young??  I'd go with Weitering, Marchbank, McGovern as the talls with Docherty, Saad, Plowman (yes Plowman) and Stocker as the 7 backs and then have De Koning drop back on Gawn when he moves forward like we did in the practice match to good effect. 
Reckon it will be players like Fritsch, Pickett and Petracca that will worry us forward more than the talls.....the former is the type of player we struggle to contain given he is a good mark for his size and evasive/smart on the ground plus a good kick for goal.
Given we are light on in the middle I expect Petracca forward a bit more in that Dusty Martin type role...
#76
(08-10-2022, 10:28 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:we aren't a quick side though.  Their run is a strength.  Langdon, Salem, hunt are all very fast and hard runners. 
We are not a quick side generally, but we can be quick. We have quick players, we have a quick mindset, lets push that and mix it up.

Just get the ball into Charlie and Harry quickly and they will get nervous.
#77
(08-11-2022, 06:18 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We are not a quick side generally, but we can be quick. We have quick players, we have a quick mindset, lets push that and mix it up.

Just get the ball into Charlie and Harry quickly and they will get nervous.
In the last quarter of the Brisbane game, we went hard and fast going forward, and we looked like a different side.  We did hit some leads, but we got more goals from the chaos the fast entries were causing.  Regardless of whether or not Brisbane took their foot off the gas, it was the mindset of attack hard and fast that got the scores.

When we flip the ball around across the half-forward line, all we do is let the opposition set up inside 50 and make it almost impossible.  Inevitably, we turn the ball over with a crap sideways kick, and then watch as the other side sprints away and sets up a 'Joe-the-goose' from the goal square (I have lost count of how many of those I have seen this year).

Go hard and fast - bang it in and scare them - at least it will be at our end of the ground!
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
#78
Voss mentioned in his presser that he doesn't believe the last quarter style is a sustainable brand, so unless he's foxing, I wouldn't expect to see too much of that in the last 2 games.
#79
(08-11-2022, 07:04 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Voss mentioned in his presser that he doesn't believe the last quarter style is a sustainable brand, so unless he's foxing, I wouldn't expect to see too much of that in the last 2 games.
Its not. We saw that under Teague.

But, you don't have to do it for 120 minutes. You do it when you need to.

Of course having the right players in the side allows you to do it better and for longer than not having them.

We've proven this year we can score quickly.
We've proven that we have the best 2 forwards in the league that can beat anyone they come up against when the ball is put in an advantageous position.

We can play 2 men behind the ball all night and slow down the game, clog up the backline and force a turnover, but when we do.....GO! Attack, run, carry, create and deliver long to our forwards.

Its just like cricket, you don't try and hit every ball for 6, its not sustainable.
But you can have a solid defence that waits for the opportunity or an error and capatalise on it without hesitation.
Block, block, block, loose ball - 6, block, block, block, loose ball - 6.
#80
Pitto In
TDK Out
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time


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