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(07-27-2022, 04:04 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Pittonet in for Honey for me.
Assuming Weitering and Walsh are good to go and Hewett still out....I can't see too many more changes needed? Silvagni can play as a permanent pressure forward and take Honey's spot which still leaves Durdin and Motlop as the two smalls with Fisher alternating too. Cottrell, Setterfield and O'Brien probably didn't do too much wrong last week and Cottrell hit the scoreboard too....all 3 got the ball up and down the ground.
We'd still have 7 defenders with Newman, Weitering, Plowman, Saad, Young, Docherty and McGovern.
I thought that Honey worked his way into the game and was important in the last quarter. He would be stiff to miss out, and so would Motlop, but I think that one of them has to make way for Pittonet.
The only other change I’d consider is bringing Owies back … but who goes out?
We’ve still got a sizeable injury list but we’re starting to have genuine competition for places in the 22 ?
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(07-27-2022, 01:48 AM)DJC date Wrote:You haven't noticed Motlop's presence, pressure and tackles up the ground LP? I have noticed some highlights, but I'm not star struck by the kid at all. Motlop is a work in progress, excluding one game that is different from all the others he has played, he is someway off being a 24x7 footballer we need to be a serious threat, but no doubt he has shown he is capable, he has shown that he has another level and some tricks.
I'll maintain that if someone like Cottrell, LoB or Owies worked as little or as intermittently as Motlop, and scored as little as Motlop, most fans would be all over them. Some people will read that as bagging Motlop, for me it's just realistic about where his progress is at!
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(07-27-2022, 05:34 AM)LP link Wrote:I have noticed some highlights, but I'm not star struck by the kid at all. Motlop is a work in progress, excluding one game that is different from all the others he has played, he is someway off being a 24x7 footballer we need to be a serious threat, but no doubt he has shown he is capable, he has shown that he has another level and some tricks.
I'll maintain that if someone like Cottrell, LoB or Owies worked as little or as intermittently as Motlop, and scored as little as Motlop, most fans would be all over them. Some people will read that as bagging Motlop, for me it's just realistic about where his progress is at!
With the exception of Owies LP, that's comparing apples with pomegranites. Sticking with Owies, he's in his third season and is a mature 25 year old who has played high level sport as an adult since 2016. Motlop is nearly 19 and, by his own admission, didn't know what had hit him during his first Carlton training session. Bearing that in mind, their stats for this season are:
Owies Motlop
13 Games 8
6.1 Kicks 4.9
3.4 Handballs 3.8
9.5 Disposals 8.6
2.8 Marks 2.5
0.8 Goals 0.9
0.6 Behinds 0.6
3.8 Tackles 2.4
1.8 Inside 50s 1.8
0.7 Goal Assists 0
1.0 Frees For 0.1
0.6 Frees Against 1.0
4.2 Contested Possessions 3.0
5.2 Uncontested Possessions 5.5
7.0 Effective Disposals 6.0
73.7% Disposal Efficiency % 69.8%
1.4 Clangers 1.9
0.3 Contested Marks 0.1
0.8 Marks Inside 50 0.6
0.2 Clearances 0
0.2 Rebound 50s 0.1
0.8 One Percenters 0.1
0.1 Bounces 0.4
76.0 Time On Ground % 68.9
0 Centre Clearances 0
0.2 Stoppage Clearances 0
4.4 Score Involvements 3.1
146.2 Metres Gained 123.5
1.6 Turnovers 2.4
1.3 Intercepts 0.2
2.0 Tackles Inside 50 1.5
Not a great deal of difference, considering they're both still learning the caper and Owies has a head start.
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Out: J.Silvagni (omitted), J.Honey (managed), J.Newnes (Medi-Sub)
Wouldn't have picked that in a million years
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2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
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In: M.Owies, M.Pittonet
Out: J.Silvagni (omitted), J.Honey (managed), J.Newnes (Medi-Sub)
Not sure i agree with SOS, i guess he's just a ruckman now?
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Never thought I'd see a game this year where Jack Silvagni was dropped! Busted his @rse for most of the season plugging gaps and rucking against the odds. Glad Owies is back but can we carry Durdin, Owies, Motlop and Fisher all in the same side?
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We deserve to lose for sheer stupidity.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(07-28-2022, 08:29 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:F-Me
In: M.Owies, M.Pittonet
Out: J.Silvagni (omitted), J.Honey (managed), J.Newnes (Medi-Sub)
Wouldn't have picked that in a million years
I like it. I am a massive JSOS fan but playing in the ruck has stuffed up his rhythm.
His kicking and decision making has been off in recent times. One week reset will do him good imo. We need him in top form as link man between mids and forwards which I think is his best role. He has been interrupted without on field continuity too much his form has been down. The tough decision that had to be made.
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Agree Mad....I don't wanna see one player not giving 100% or shirking a contest this week....that's what JSOS brings to the table every single time he runs out. He might not be the best player or the most skilful player but you know you'll get maximum effort every week.
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He must be managed or injured, can't believe Jack was dropped on form given how much he has sacrificed his own game to be a part time ruckman.
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