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(06-15-2022, 02:52 AM)DJC link Wrote:Yes, but Young is an upgrade on McDonald and McGovern has only played two games as a defender. Both have been covered more than adequately.
Essentially, it's Setterfield, Cerra, McDonald, McGovern, Pittonet, Williamson, Weitering and Williams out and probably Young, Walsh, Newnes, Cottrell, S Durdin, Boyd, Plowman and a replacement for Cerra in. It's Pitto and Weiters that we will miss on Thursday.
Young was very good last week bouncing back from a rough game the week before.
Upgrade? Not sure. Even you rated McDonald and McGov after rd 1. Here are your thoughts.
Team: A for a consistent team performance and finally breaking the Tiger hoodoo ?
5 - Cripps
4 - Kennedy
3 - Cerra
2 - McGovern
1 - Saad
HMs to Hewett, Docherty, Pittonet, Durdin, Weitering and McDonald
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I agree we need to play Durdin. Kemp was towelled up by the talls in the game against Essendon VFL. But I’m pessimistic. Durdin’s NM highlights all seemed to involve him being a loose interceptor. Weitering’s highlight reel would almost exclusively involve using his body to move big forwards out of position in order to take easy marks. Even Young’s highlight reel would now be similar. The fact he wasn’t played on the 199cm Stewart and was knocked out of a marking contest with him in their only one-on-one marking contest worries me.
His kicking is good which is a plus but they all seem to be well-flighted. I’m not sure I’ve seem him kick the sort of raking passes Weitering, Young and the Gov have produced. On the plus side, he can chip short passes accurately and kick long. But the short chips are much safer at the lower level. At AFL level, forwards and mids close in on chip kicks much more quickly.
Fingers crossed, though, that he’ll show those doubts are unfounded. It seemed he stayed with opponents on long leads last week, so maybe he has good mobility.
Presumably, Young will take Lynch if he plays and Durdin will have to pick up either Riewoldt or Balta. While he has a height advantage on both, Riewoldt uses his body well in marking contests and he’s smart when the ball hits the ground while Balta is heavier and very athletic. Playing man-on-man on either will be a huge challenge for him.
We know that the Tigers’ strategy is for the talls to make sure the ball goes to ground if they can’t mark it so their smalls can swarm. Bodying Jumping Jack to make sure he can’t launch is vital as he can make it difficult to intercept. And being able to block for Young and Doc to intercept is vital as well. Intercept marks will be like gold.
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Young still needs to build up his strength as he gets pushed aside a bit and Lynch will be a test. End of the day, it's Young and Durdin as it stands...nothing we can do about it. Hopefullly win more than our share of the ball up the ground and in the middle and give Harry/Charlie and the smalls plenty of opportunities.
I'd prefer Stocker in this week as opposed to Boyd....his disposal isn't as good but bigger, stronger and doesn't mind the physical stuff.
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(06-15-2022, 03:00 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Young was very good last week bouncing back from a rough game the week before.
Upgrade? Not sure. Even you rated McDonald and McGov after rd 1. Here are your thoughts.
Team: A for a consistent team performance and finally breaking the Tiger hoodoo ?
5 - Cripps
4 - Kennedy
3 - Cerra
2 - McGovern
1 - Saad
HMs to Hewett, Docherty, Pittonet, Durdin, Weitering and McDonald
Yes, both McGovern and McDonald played well in Round 1.
The thing is that the better teams can cover injured players and I think that we have more than adequately covered those two.
We have fudged a solution to Pitto’s absence that has worked in part and particularly when our opponent doesn’t have a strong ruck combination.
Weitering’s injury unsettled our defence against Collingwood and Young’s performance suffered as a consequence. The addition of Marchbank and, presumably, Hamill’s tweaking of our defensive roles, resulted in a better performance against admittedly mediocre opponents last round.
Richmond’s forwards, with Lynch back and if Dusty plays, are a different kettle of potatoes and Young and Durdin will have their hands full. They should break even, if we can limit Richmond’s forward 50 entries.
It will depend on whether our midfield can counter Richmond’s likely ruck dominance and whether we can control possession. A positive for us is that Harry and Charlie are in much better form than they were in Round 1.
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(06-15-2022, 04:12 AM)DJC link Wrote:Yes, both McGovern and McDonald played well in Round 1.
The thing is that the better teams can cover injured players and I think that we have more than adequately covered those two.
We have fudged a solution to Pitto’s absence that has worked in part and particularly when our opponent doesn’t have a strong ruck combination.
Weitering’s injury unsettled our defence against Collingwood and Young’s performance suffered as a consequence. The addition of Marchbank and, presumably, Hamill’s tweaking of our defensive roles, resulted in a better performance against admittedly mediocre opponents last round.
Richmond’s forwards, with Lynch back and if Dusty plays, are a different kettle of potatoes and Young and Durdin will have their hands full. They should break even, if we can limit Richmond’s forward 50 entries.
It will depend on whether our midfield can counter Richmond’s likely ruck dominance and whether we can control possession. A positive for us is that Harry and Charlie are in much better form than they were in Round 1. I think Collingwood have a weird forward line with a lot of non standard type players who are difficult matchups and its a bit like playing the Adams family TV show characters. They can hurt you if they get decent supply and thats where we lost the game and while I appreciate Weitering was missing I still think we would have lost but as the Pies have shown even the other good teams are struggling what to make of them. Richmond are a lot more traditional and I expect a more standard game style with less surprises.
There is talk Soldo might not play because of the conditions and us only playing one ruckman and that Balta would be their 2nd ruckman. dont see Dusty playing and Lambert will probably replace him.
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beat tigers,bring pressure tackles have to stick and last one team defence ,DEFEND with numbers no space in there forward line
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(06-15-2022, 05:51 AM)pew2 link Wrote:beat tigers,bring pressure tackles have to stick and last one team defence ,DEFEND with numbers no space in there forward line Gonna be tuff, the create space in their fwd line by manic and relentless running, it will be a tuff one.
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(06-15-2022, 01:50 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Our 3 key defenders and number 1 ruck are missing from our rd 1 side that beat Richmond. Not only that, 3 of our 'next best' defenders are also injured/unavailable - Marchbank,Parks and Williamson.
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Cottrell and Durdin in..... makes sense.
Dusty and Soldo out for them. Makes JSOS's life a bit easier!
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