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AFL Rd 14 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
#11
We can flood back to help Young and co but no one can help Silvagni and De Koning in the ruck. TDK held his own last night but Jack was flogged.
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#12
The ruck is the area I'm really concerned about. Richmond's rucks usually play well against us. This week we were killed in the centre square. That happens on Thursday, and we are toast.
Tom de Koning gives it his all, but he isn't a great ruckman. Jack tried his guts out, but real rucks hurt us. We are really missing Pitto.
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#13
TDK isnt starring but doing a solid job. I've actually been very happy with his output. SOS is a scrapper in the middle and if the ball hits the ground he is unbeatable against other rucks. So other rucks need to be on their game or Jack will win the clearance. Cat and Mouse... but yeah need Pitto back to bash and crash.
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#14
(06-13-2022, 02:15 AM)pinot link Wrote:TDK isnt starring but doing a solid job. I've actually been very happy with his output. SOS is a scrapper in the middle and if the ball hits the ground he is unbeatable against other rucks. So other rucks need to be on their game or Jack will win the clearance. Cat and Mouse... but yeah need Pitto back to bash and crash.

Agree on SOS. If he scraps it out and stops the opposition getting clean possession then he's doing his job imo.
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(06-13-2022, 02:15 AM)pinot link Wrote:TDK isnt starring but doing a solid job. I've actually been very happy with his output. SOS is a scrapper in the middle and if the ball hits the ground he is unbeatable against other rucks. So other rucks need to be on their game or Jack will win the clearance. Cat and Mouse... but yeah need Pitto back to bash and crash.

Jack only comes into it at centre bounces if he nullifies the other ruckman.  If Nankervis/Soldo get a clean hitout, the Richmond mids will be on their way unless we shark the ball or force a secondary ball up.

Around the ground is a different matter as Jack or Cripps are strong enough to affect or even win hitouts, and Harry is doing OK with the forward 50 ruck contests.

Mirkov was soundly beaten by Bryan on Saturday and Sam Durdin looks like he will need a month or so of Kreuzer's tuition before he could be competitive against the likes of Nankervis.

Our lack of ruck strength/depth is an issue but, to the credit of our coaching group, we have a solution that minimises the impact of the opposition rucks.
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#16
TDK has done well, only Witts and Darcy really thrashed him and they were 2 of our 3 losses.

Jack battles to negate but was unsuccessful on Friday night and our midfield was smashed in the clearances.

A positive will be the experience TDK has had and what a weapon he will be when Pittonet comes back.
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#17
(06-13-2022, 03:00 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:TDK has done well, only Witts and Darcy really thrashed him and they were 2 of our 3 losses.

Jack battles to negate but was unsuccessful on Friday night and our midfield was smashed in the clearances.

A positive will be the experience TDK has had and what a weapon he will be when Pittonet comes back.

Smashed in centre bounce clearances but we won the stoppage clearances convincingly.  I suspect that our coaching group will be tweaking our centre bounce set up this week.

Yes, young Tom is on a steep learning curve and Pitto's absence will have accelerated his development.  Giving Pitto a break when the main opposition ruck is tired or having a spell should be ideal for Tom.  He will also provide an alternative to Harry and Charlie as a marking target when we go long down the line.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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#18
I get the idea that jsos was a bit of a surprise that most ruckmen weren't planning for and now rucks are taking him a bit more seriously and planning on how to use the ruck advantage when he's up against them.

Opposition midfield have worked it out too which is why jsos has not been as effective lately.

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#19
Usually the No 2 rucks tend to face off with each other when the No 1's are having a rest but I noticed Jack copped a fair bit of Draper rather than Philips. Nank and Soldo will be even harder as both are that body on body type rucks and like it rough, I thought Jack was competitive and did ok at ground level and has been value most of the season but you have to expect its not going keep on that way and teams will plan a bit more to take advantage of the mismatch.
After Richmond its Freo with Darcy and Lobb and for me you need to break even or take them out of the game to beat Freo.

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#20
(06-10-2022, 11:50 PM)tonyo link Wrote:I agree it will be a toughie, but the Tigers are not exactly flying.  They were a bit lucky against Port on Thurs.  Lynch does give them another dimension. 

This one will be won in the middle, as both sides have good forwards - whoever gets most of the centre clearances will probably outscore the other.

Agree and our last 2 games we haven't been as strong in the middle as we were earlier in the year and we need to revert back to that form to win this one.

In a weird way I prefer Lynch plays even though we are short down back as they become much more predicable where the ball goes forward and i think we can plan to get numbers to the drop as their smalls are where i think we are more at risk then the talls. Sure Lynch and Riewoldt will probably still kick 5 or 6 between them but still think we are as good or better chance to beat them if we know where the ball is heading more often then not.

We have as many or more weapons in my opinion across the park except the small forwards area. Hold them to a few goals and we will get them again.


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