Hawthorn v Carlton -Post Match thread

[DJC]

Rohan Connelly made the point on radio today that "another station" was going on about Watson's head all game.

Sounded like high school kids picking on the fat kid.

Watson has got to be gone though surely. Shows flashes of capability but unfortunately he's only ever played forward in a rubbish team so it's virtually impossible to succeed unless you're an absolute gun. Which he isn't.

What else would those dickheads focus on?  Oh yes, they did slip in the odd innuendo about Dick.

Watson shows glimpses much in the same way that Jones does.  I suspect that Watson has more chance of success than Jones, if he goes to one of the middle six teams.

[Thryleon]

Daisy has stunk it up until he moved to half back at which point he was serviceable butanother HBF at 700k is the last thing we needed.

The half back position doesnt really exist anymore.

You have key defenders 1 (Jamo), 2 (Rowe), and a mid size coming in 3rd (White/Jaksch), a back pocket negator who generally minds a small and occasionally gets up the ground (Yarran, Buckley, Docherty, Tuohy), and the other two rotate through the wings (Yarran, Docherty, Buckley, Tuohy).

Sometimes you mix them up depending on whether or not you are playing a plus one behind the ball, or matchups, or even resting on field, rather than on the bench.


The west coast game last year he was outstanding.  Likewise, he was really good against Sydney this year before going off.




Its still a hope that he will come good more than anything, but anyway.  Its true we cant afford to waste that much money in our cap, but I cant actually see where its going any more.  Unless we are front loading everyone which we might do moving forward.  Not many big contracts left, and not many coming in.

[LP]

I suspect that Watson has more chance of success than Jones, if he goes to one of the middle six teams.

I agree, Watson can be serviceable as a KPP at either end, we have too many serviceable players which probably stamps his papers.

Jones is a very unfortunate situation for us. MM really did a number on our club, sons of former team-mates, sons former players he coached, blokes on long contracts who could not get a kick at other clubs, best buddies on a superannuation boost and Daisy. I'm not too fussed about Daisy because when he gets on the park he puts in, the issue is what he is capable of isn't worth what he gets remunerated, Daisy is not Chris Judd!

If you look into those last few years too closely you could end up paranoid!

[madbluboy]

Malthouse doesn't do the contracts, stop making shit up.

[LP]

Malthouse doesn't do the contracts, stop making crap up.

The contracts are irrelevant. Are you telling me MM who was brought in as head coach and Saviour had zero influence over the choice of players, staff and coaches?

[madbluboy]

The contracts are irrelevant. Are you telling me MM who was brought in as head coach and Saviour had zero influence over the choice of players, staff and coaches?

What do you mean the contracts are irrelevant?

I'm telling you that MM had zero influence over how much our players were paid, it was not part of his job.

[Tribey72]

Menzel has been one of the great disappointments of the season.

I don't usually give much attention to Garry Lyon's pronouncements but he made an interesting statement during the commentary.  Basically it was along the lines of ensuring that Menzel and Smith trained with Ed Curnow over the summer.  While there is merit in that, we could add a few other blokes to the Ed Curnow training camp.

As long as there's no footballs around, that is fine.

[shadesy]

LOL!

As long as there's no footballs around, that is fine.

[LP]

What do you mean the contracts are irrelevant?

I'm telling you that MM had zero influence over how much our players were paid, it was not part of his job.

But he had significant influence over who to choose and as such he also had significant influence over the process that determined their value! There is no way he can escape having some responsibility for those decisions!

[DJC]

I was very pleased to see Cripps sit Frawley on his butt with a very well executed hip and shoulder.  Frawley took his time getting up and then looked quite proppy as he jogged away.

We need our big bodies to make their presence felt and I suspect Bolton will be encouraging a more physical approach next season.