Election 2022 (Poll added)

[DJC]

Labor’s absolute majority is now confirmed.

The Teal independents and Greens are now largely irrelevant in the House of Reps.  I wonder what that will mean for future elections ?

Labor will have to rely on Liberals, Nationals or Greens to get legislation passed in the Senate.  Albo’s expertise as a negotiator will be put to the test.

The best thing about the election results is that Pauline Hanson’s farkwits and Clive Palmer’s sociopaths are irrelevant ?

[Lods]

Labor’s absolute majority is now confirmed.

The Teal independents and Greens are now largely irrelevant in the House of Reps.  I wonder what that will mean for future elections ?

It's an interesting situation.
Speaking generally, these Teal independents seem to be intelligent, successful women who have had good careers prior to politics.
It appears Zali Steggall has done enough locally to consolidate her seat.
Her opposition was a  bit of a train wreck but credit to her.
While she may not have impacted nationally, she does well locally.

So the question arises.
Will being a good local candidate, working for the local community, be be 'enough' for the Teals ?
The election result means they are essentially 'powerless' to progress their agendas.
Sure, Labor will probably push through major elements of their platforms...but perhaps not quite to the extent they hoped.

So in three years time will they have the desire to 'go around again' or will they look to return to former careers and pursuits where they have more control and opportunity.

[Thryleon]

It's an interesting situation.
Speaking generally, these Teal independents seem to be intelligent, successful women who have had good careers prior to politics.
It appears Zali Steggall has done enough locally to consolidate her seat.
Her opposition was a  bit of a train wreck but credit to her.
While she may not have impacted nationally, she does well locally.

So the question arises.
Will being a good local candidate, working for the local community, be be 'enough' for the Teals ?
The election result means they are essentially 'powerless' to progress their agendas.
Sure, Labor will probably push through major elements of their platforms...but perhaps not quite to the extent they hoped.

So in three years time will they have the desire to 'go around again' or will they look to return to former careers and pursuits where they have more control and opportunity.

"Grabs umbrella to shield from the abuse about to come my way."

Aside from "teal Independents" is it possible that they actually have already progressed their agendas by being elected.  Mission accomplished is all they see because women beat men at an election?

The status quo remains governmentally and thats fine.

[dodge]

A speaker needs to be appointed by Labor.  If they come from the Labor party, doesn't that mean they have 75 members to vote.  Need 76 votes to pass.  The last time this happened, the speaker (Peter Slipper) was appointed from Independents and he was in strife with taxi rorts?

Some lower house negotiation may be required, but not as much as the upper house.  Part of the Teal appeal was that they represented some of the views of the electorate, unlike Labor/LNP.  Labor would be making a mistake if they ignored them.

[DJC]

A speaker needs to be appointed by Labor.  If they come from the Labor party, doesn't that mean they have 75 members to vote.  Need 76 votes to pass.  The last time this happened, the speaker (Peter Slipper) was appointed from Independents and he was in strife with taxi rorts?

Some lower house negotiation may be required, but not as much as the upper house.  Part of the Teal appeal was that they represented some of the views of the electorate, unlike Labor/LNP.  Labor would be making a mistake if they ignored them.

The Speaker has a tiebreaker vote so Labor will still have a majority in the House.  That would only be required if the Libs, Nats, Greens and independents all voted against Labor.  However, I suspect there could be some negotiations with the crossbench to find an "independent" Speaker.

Albo seems pretty keen to have an inclusive government and was the last Labor government's key negotiator with the independents.  Kerryn Phelps was on the wireless this morning and mentioned how good Albo was when negotiating with her and the other independents.

The independents all seem to be around the centre so there shouldn't be too many points of difference.

[Mav]

Andrew Wilkie is the obvious choice. He has strong local support and his constituents wouldn’t feel let down if he becomes an umpire rather than player. That might not be the case with just-elected independents whose constituents might expect some action on the floor.

The downside would be that the speaker’s chair couldn’t be used as a bone to resolve factional demands and appointing Wilkie may mean Labor doesn’t get to put a finger on the scales when the action on the floor heats up. For instance, Bronwyn Bishop’s selective hearing meant she rarely heard any LNP comments that may have warranted action.

[kruddler]

A speaker needs to be appointed by Labor.  If they come from the Labor party, doesn't that mean they have 75 members to vote.  Need 76 votes to pass.  The last time this happened, the speaker (Peter Slipper) was appointed from Independents and he was in strife with taxi rorts?

Some lower house negotiation may be required, but not as much as the upper house.  Part of the Teal appeal was that they represented some of the views of the electorate, unlike Labor/LNP.  Labor would be making a mistake if they ignored them.

Still 2 seats in doubt.

looking like 1 for the libs and 1 for ALP, so could end up with 77 equating to 76 + speaker,

[DJC]

It’s now confirmed that Labor has 77 seats so the Speaker is less of an issue.

I like Mav’s suggestion that Andrew Wilkie take the role.  He wouldn’t play favourites but I suspect that he would prefer to have the freedom to pursue his own agenda.

[ElwoodBlues1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ97mTC_Ywk

[DJC]

I love the fake Ikea billboard:
Geez Clive ...
$60 million and not a single seat?