AFL Rd 9 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

[Mav]

If SOS was still playing, he would have been perfect as well. But there's not much point considering former players.

[capcom]

Personally I think stopping and tagging are way over-rated, they are tactics used heavily when a coach thinks he can't win enough one on ones, I doubt that our current team fits that description. I'll back Cripps, Walsh, Kennedy, Cerra, Hewett, Charlie, McKay, SoJ, Durdin, Weitering, Saad, Doc, Young, Owies, Newman, Newnes, etc., etc., to win or at least break even, and my confidence is much higher this season for guys like Fisher, LoB, Boyd, TDK, etc., etc..

He's good but he's not that bloody good. We have a team to attend to.  So do they

[DJC]

Not sure there should be such an obsession with negating Greene. Yes, by all means put a hard tag on him and perhaps organise a hand over when Greene goes forward. But double-teaming him is going a bit far. Team defence should be able to give us most of what double-teaming would do as our intercept defenders will have a fair idea that Greene will attract the ball a lot. We should have an advantage at stoppages and we don't want to lose that. Getting it forward to H & Charlie should give the Giants enough to worry about. Cripps showed how to turn a double-team against the defensive team at stoppages by allowing a team mate to be loose.

Yes, I suspect that the GWS coaches are more worried about how to negate Cripps, McKay, Curnow, Walsh, Cerra, Kennedy, Docherty, Saad, Weitering and others than we are about Greene.

Our sliding defence, more defensive midfield and the hard work of our small forwards all over the ground should limit Greene’s opportunities.

I’d expect Newman, Williams, Docherty and Saad to put time into Greene.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Tend to agree, if we become too focussed on stopping we'll lose the attack side of the game, and it's basically attack that is winning us games so we should concentrate on our strengths.

I wonder if Greene would be as damaging and useful if we had guys like Doc or Saad run off him, I bet Greene hangs back more than he chases, sure we'll turn it over sometimes and Greene will benefit, but I bet we can get a net gain if we stick to the plan.

Personally I think stopping and tagging are way over-rated, they are tactics used heavily when a coach thinks he can't win enough one on ones, I doubt that our current team fits that description. I'll back Cripps, Walsh, Kennedy, Cerra, Hewett, Charlie, McKay, SoJ, Durdin, Weitering, Saad, Doc, Young, Owies, Newman, Newnes, etc., etc., to win or at least break even, and my confidence is much higher this season for guys like Fisher, LoB, Boyd, TDK, etc., etc..

Running off players is fine as long as you are on them when it matters and IMHO and I have been saying it all season some of our defenders dont man up at all and strike that happy balance. When your midfield dominates you can cover that because the ball isnt getting down to your defenders areas as often or as quick but I think the GWS mids are a lot better than the Nth, Crows mids we have played in recent weeks and they deserve a bit of respect. Kelly, Cogs, Ward, Taranto, Green, Whitfield and Perryman assisted by Pruess and Flynn in the ruck is a decent setup and a player like Greene will get his fair share of opportunities IMHO.

[LP]

Running off players is fine as long as you are on them when it matters and IMHO and I have been saying it all season some of our defenders dont man up at all and strike that happy balance. When your midfield dominates you can cover that because the ball isnt getting down to your defenders areas as often or as quick but I think the GWS mids are a lot better than the Nth, Crows mids we have played in recent weeks and they deserve a bit of respect. Kelly, Cogs, Ward, Taranto, Green, Whitfield and Perryman assisted by Pruess and Flynn in the ruck is a decent setup and a player like Greene will get his fair share of opportunities IMHO.

We have to score [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member] tagging is not our go, and in any case we don't have the people to man them up, but we do have people who can win a head to head in the other direction.

I'll make a prediction, after this weeks game people will be back to cursing Owies, Durdin, LoB, Newnes and maybe Newman, Plowman or Cottrell subject to selection. Because this weekend if our Mids can't clearly win the battle then the deep running of LoB, Owies, Durdin and Newnes isn't going to be enough, and guys like Newman, Cottrell maybe even Plowman or Williams will be caught 1 out against 2 or 3 opponents!

Fans have been taking the deep running of LoB, Owies, Newnes and even Setterfield for granted, but those guys have been pushing hard back to make up for the likes of Cripps and Walsh being caught behind the play. However GWS is too skilled, they'll use the free player better than most clubs do, and that means nobody knows where to run!

[kruddler]

Saad may not be good in the air, but he is good on the spoil and he is quick enough to close in on Greene on a lead, so he won't need to wrestle with him.

He is good on the tackle and will nor take a backwards step, but will run off him and force him to chase him or be burned.

Saad gets my vote.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I dont think they will burden Saad with Greene especially if the latter plays closer to goal.....the former is probably our quickest and best rebounding defender and according to Essendon didnt enjoy being told you have to mind a man deep on the goal line.
Dont get me wrong I rate him as one of the few on the list who can both defend and attack but I wouldnt be suprised to see a player like Plowman included to play a more negative game on Greene.

[Gointocarlton]

H out for 6 weeks, that's us then.

[BluePhantom]

McKay out with knee problems

[ElwoodBlues1]

H out for 6 weeks, that's us then.

Time to bring Mirkov in and play Jack FT forward with TDK spending more time there too....