AFL Rd 6 2022 Post Game Permutations Carlton vs Fremantle

[Mav]

The way Darcy hit Pitt was bone crunching even from a short run up. Buckley commented on it in the post game show, saying that it was a "skill" that had been perfected and refined over recent years.  It makes Ruck a very tough gig for skinny young ruckmen.

And if you don't put up your knee, you take a knee to the chest or stomach. That's the very definition of a dilemma.

[Thryleon]

My two cents.  A lot of people lining up Setterfield a bit unfairly.  Blokes only crime is not being express and being a but wasteful with ball in hand.  Competes well enough and is a clean possession getter.  Decision making seems his weak point.  Lacking confidence will do that to a bloke and I think you can thank Teague for that.

Owies was ok too.  Did some good things but was often where the ball wasn't which caused grief.  Gave that one free away for a block, but really that was his only sin.

Parks.  A competitor but with one problem.  He has no idea.  At one point I saw him contest a ground ball three times with freo surging it forward on the deck and instead of trying to surge it back, he was trying to get down and dirty losing his feet.  Plus repeat contests.  Minus smart thinking because he wasn't keeping the ball away from dangerous areas.

Fisher.  Terrible.  Ive not see him play so poorly across his career to date.  Not sure whats going on, but here is an example of a player going backwards.  Gone is the zippy ball magnet, who used it cleanly and now we have a bona-fide witches hat.

Cottrell.  Another hacker who did ok at times and was just absent at others.

Boyd.  Once again, guilty of not knowing his limitations in the contest.  Used it well, but he is being beaten and is too much of a weak link to play.  I think he was a docherty cover as a desperate attempt because its inexplicable that he is on the list let alone getting a game.

Newnes, wasn't as bad as some make out.  He's only sin is he's a vanilla player who isn't a game winner. 

Ive seen lots of posters potting these players, but 10 mins to go we were about 20 points down and in with a sniff of winning despite being what I would call rubbish for most of the game.  Thats largely thanks to Robin hood (cripps) and his merry men in the middle (walsh, cerra, hewett), but we were down but not out and the effort was there which is all we can really ask for.

These guys are stop gaps.  Im looking at the blokes who have more ability but need to take these guys out of the team because they are the ones who are letting us down.  These guys are too, but not through lack of effort.

[madbluboy]

The game was even before Pitt went down.
It became even again when Darcy went off.

[capcom]

Give Motlop a go ... for heaven's sake !!!!!!!!!!

[Professer E]

He couldn't be any worse than Fisher the witches hat...can't stick a tackle, not getting to the fall of the ball and gets knocked over too easily.

[tonyo]

It's clear our weakness lies in the last 6-8 of the 22 we pick - good teams have respectable soldiers in those roles.  I think it's time we rolled the dice and started giving Carroll and Motlop a shot.  And get Stocker and Kemp into the backline.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Setterfields main problem for me is his intermittent attack on the ball, he isnt hard enough to be a frontline mid and has been pushed out to a wing where its less contested. Problem is wingers need a bit of toe and need to be able to use the ball well, I'd rather be experimenting with a true winger like Carroll or LOB on the wing as they are better users of the ball and give you that run and carry.
Fisher...dont care what anyone says but he gets a bit of slack cut his way because he is Cripps mate IMHO, he is a good footballer but needs some VFL footy to get some urgency in his game. Looked half a yard behind the flow of play and Freo being a quicker team really exposed him.
I'd be happy to rotate Owies, Durdin, Fisher and Motlop and find the best combo....
Agree with Tonyo on Stocker and Kemp, I think they are more true defenders who can play also in an attacking manner when required. Freo have some smart small forwards and our attack only defenders got caught out not manning up...Schultz, Walters etc should not be getting uncontested possessions and marks.
Time for a rethink on Williams, Docherty, Saad, Newman all playing loose down back.......I'd rather we train up Stocker and Kemp and lose Williams and Newman from defense, maybe Williams can play off the bench but we have to get more defensive minded and help Weitering out who is holding the fort down back. Young has been reasonable and l like what he offers with his flexibility to do a few roles.
We are also one ruckman short on the list IMO...having only a junior apprentice in Mirkov as backup has left us exposed and Young is needed down back, time to get a journeyman type like a Ceglar, Ryder, Sinclair etc who can fill in when needed and also help train Mirkov in the twos.
TDK is a great talent but is always going to struggle vs the bigger bodied types like Darcy and having a readymade who can come in and bang bodies with Darcy types will make it easier for TDK who is suited to part time rucking and also spending time forward.

[blueboys_1]

Teams have worked out that we depend on getting centre clearances to score.
We'll get over it, but we have plan B. We need to develop one and quickly.

We now play North, who play well against us, without the man that wins us games (Pittonet). We'll probably have to play Mirkov, no matter how raw he is, because Tom de Koning is not enough, no matter how he tries.

Hopefully, Pittonet isn't too badly hurt, because he is the missing link when we fail.

Crash, I don't think Mirkov is ready. Has good athleticism for a tall guy, however ATM he is mainly a tap ruckman who will struggle against a bigger more experienced ruckman, such as the ones he will come up against on Saturday if he gets a call up.

He had a good last quarter against Weribee yesterday and did get his fair share of tap outs, however was beaten at times at the center bounce a few times by a smaller less experienced ruckman.

[madbluboy]

We need a big dude to ruck which releases Dekoning up forward which creates a massive headache for the opposition.

[northernblue]

That’s all well and good about Mirkov not being ready, but do we really want to be rucking Setterfield again ?