AAMI Community Match vs Melbourne

[Baggers]

Does anyone know if the VFL game will be televised anywhere, think it is on before the AFL game? Would love to see Doc's take the field.

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[NudeNut]

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Thanks for that. Just checked it and they're saying Doc had 16 disposals in the first Qtr.

[DJC]

Can anyone confirm who sits on the current MC?

I’m still trying to find out who was on last season’s MC ?

I’m hoping that few, if any, of last year’s lot kept their gigs.

[DJC]

Does anyone know if the VFL game will be televised anywhere, think it is on before the AFL game? Would love to see Doc's take the field.

According to the Twitter feed:

... today's game will not be live-streamed. But full highlights will be available on the Carlton website post-match.

[LP]

I gather things are not going well given the Carlton Twitter feed has slowed to a crawl!

Oops; Spoke too soon, but assumption was correct, 9 - 54 in a 1/2 of footy! :o

Those of us old enough to have lived through the golden era won't be worried, back then we would get smashed in pre-season games, then when the real stuff started we were the mustard!

[DJC]

Has Casey taken its foot off the pedal?

45 - 74 in the last ...

Doc had 38 disposals!

[kruddler]

We do need some outside run and none of those above give us breakaway pace. For that reason I think it’s a mistake not investing more time in Dow.

That's where the likes of O'Brien, Fisher, Martin coming off the wings with saad and Williams coming g off half back help. They're all your outside types. The players Iisted were more grunt types in the middle who get a gig ahead of Dow.

[Mav]

We do need some outside run and none of those above give us breakaway pace. For that reason I think it’s a mistake not investing more time in Dow.

Leigh Montagna & Nick Riewoldt have separately talked about what they see as the prime mission of Voss in the preseason: fixing the inability to defend. In the Season Preview on Fox Footy, Riewoldt summed it up by saying "Carlton is a team that refused to defend". He said the behind-the-goals vision was horrible (including from Cripps) and noted Teague repeatedly stated at every press conference that this wasn't the way they wanted to defend and yet the players refused to buy in. He argued that Aaron Hamill, who was in charge of team defence at St Kilda, has presumably brought that system across and Voss will be the driver of culture & standards. Accordingly, the extent to which the players buy in will determine Carlton's year rather than the talent which isn't the problem. Montagna on SEN reviewing the last practice match said he noted that the man-on-man defence has been replaced by a system which offers more protection.

Obviously, Riewoldt & Montagna are just 2 ex-players and they just have their own opinions. But if Voss did come in with a plan to impose a defensive system the players would accept, where would Dow fit into it? It wouldn't be surprising if he turns to guys like Hewitt, Cerra, Kennedy & Ed Curnow to build that sort of system, particularly when the most hard-working mid in Walsh is unavailable. Having a guy with pace like Dow is more like the cherry on top when that system is bedded down.

Dow also lacks a bit of confidence, so allowing him to find some form in the VFL isn't such a bad idea.     

[LP]

I've heard that Doc had 39 disposals, I believe Ed had a similar bounty the week before, that is how AFL players are supposed to play when they go down to VFL, I hope some of our younger blokes took notice.

This is probably why those two guys stand apart from many on our list, for too long we've had too many players who happily get their 18 in the AFL and are happy to get their 18 in the VFL.

If you want to be an AFL mid or HBF, then 35 in the VFL must be about break even!

[Mav]

It's also possible that Riewoldt & Montagna are pumping up the tyres of an old mate in Aaron Hamill (fellow player and assistant coach during their time) when they dwell on Carlton's defensive woes during last season.