CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

This is my experience of living in Australia.

I am white and have white privilege to minority groups, true dark skinned people, the LBGTQI community and females (i am male).

I am not truly one of the club like some of the others.

I get it Thry, but that's a personal perception is it not, rather than a mainstream view?

I suppose it is.

The big question is, is it correct?

Again, like all issues, its very difficult to paint one thing with the same brush.  In isolation, lots of the covid strategy makes no sense.  In combination with other factors, even the most ridiculous has a logical and lateral, risk aversion to it, even if the risk is quite small.

Its all very much to do with the experience not solely born of one persons life, but a systemic thing, and if ever you think to yourself, that he might be talking based on just an anecdotal view, have a think about how the white privilege gets bandied about by others.  Am I riding on coat tails?  Am I potentially correct?  Or, is it possible, that I have faced some descriminatory action that has led me to this particular junction?

The answer is a combination.  Not all people are racist.  Not all people are prejudiced.  Not all people face discrimination.  The ones that do, often stay quiet about it because unless you rise above it, you give it power over you and you give it the sort of power thats intended when people actually discriminate against you.

[Baggers]

We have let it rip.

MBB, old son. If only it were that simple. From one simple viewpoint... about 8% of Aussies aged over 12 are unvaccinated. These people are at increased risk of needing hospitalisation upon infection. Now if the hospitals continue to be inundated with Covid cases -- beyond their resources -- then other surgeries and medical needs are shunted down the queue, increasing the risk of serious illness, even death from other health care issues - including mental health. There are other factors as well.

Our healthcare system is deeply under resourced as it is, without Covid. Moderating the flow of Covid infected folks (especially unvaccinated) is the only humane solution available. As Wing Man MAV suggested, either/or / extreme thinking will create too many unnecessary problems.

Hopefully, our less than intelligent authorities will realise that our health care system needs strong improvement. The smarter Party will realise this and make it an election pillar.

[Baggers]

3 positives at work have had a booster. The vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it.

Vaccination does reduce transmissibility and most importantly, severity of symptoms.

[Baggers]

Kind of.

Some of it dates back to Orthodox Christianity, Geo Politics, and a break away from the Ottoman empire.  Some of it is steeped in Byzantine empire, and is similar to the Uno Fazza Uno Razza with the Italians.  It all dates back to Roman times, and is quite irrelevant these days, but in the last couple of hundred years, the break up of the ottoman empire has contributed to that affinity.  There is even talk of Greeks having taught the Cyrillic alphabet to the people from that region, and when you look at Cyrillic and Greek there is a sharing of script there that looks familiar in some places (possibly like the skandinavians.



This is my experience of living in Australia.

I am white and have white privilege to minority groups, true dark skinned people, the LBGTQI community and females (i am male).

I am not truly one of the club like some of the others. 

I have been told to f%ck off back to where I came from as recently as 2017, from someone who is "more australian" and am leaving a place where people who have names with 2 syllables in them continually end up in leadership roles, whilst any more, and you get tokenism at best, with respect to leadership roles.

Not all people are guilty of the same crimes, but yet, when the boos were going for Adam Goodes, they did all end up racists didnt they?

Just applying the same argument.  If the shoe fits, you can wear it or not.  Your choice, but I find it interesting to see that people don't like being lumped into one group like this, but are happy to do it to others. 

I think I get where you're coming from, 3 Leos.

I would contend that most 'Anglo Aussies' are decent, every day folks.

Although I am 'very' Anglo (Scandinavian and English blood... along with Irish and Scottish) I was brought up in a home with a Landscape Architect/Gardener father who employed many different ethnic background folks (tradies/labourers). In fact my father would often comment that he leaned toward employing Greeks, Italians and Slavic folks, as, in his view, these people were harder and more reliable workers for his business. My parents never demonstrated racially prejudiced comments... perhaps the popular belief that prejudice is taught rather than inherent in our nature is in fact true.

I'm sorry you had to endure hurtful, racist slurs. Tells you of the ignorance of the persecutor rather than Aussies as a whole. There will likely always be folks who are unintelligent and abusive in respect to their views of anyone 'different.' I can assure you that to this day, I have to be careful who I share my PTSD stuff with... yep, some of the breathtakingly stupid comments I have heard are so wrong. Plenty of horribly judgemental barbs delivered by mental health issues ignorant people. However, this is powerfully counter balanced by the compassion and empathy from most Aussies. We're a young country... but already way ahead of many others (in terms of accepting difference) in regards to our fairness and willingness to 'give a go' to just about anyone.

As for Djokovic, I don't think his treatment has anything to do with ethnicity... he's a public figure and some will just hate on him because they don't like his attitude or hair cut! But if he is found to have manipulated the system, that 'fair go' of Aussies will evaporate pretty quickly.

[capcom]

Hopefully, our less than intelligent authorities will realise that our health care system needs strong improvement. The smarter Party will realise this and make it an election pillar.

Maybe [member=61]Baggers[/member] ... but that takes years to ramp up and a helluva lot more staff, all unpredictable 3 years back. 

[madbluboy]

Vaccination does reduce transmissibility and most importantly, severity of symptoms.

Your second part is correct.

[madbluboy]

MBB, old son. If only it were that simple. From one simple viewpoint... about 8% of Aussies aged over 12 are unvaccinated. These people are at increased risk of needing hospitalisation upon infection. Now if the hospitals continue to be inundated with Covid cases -- beyond their resources -- then other surgeries and medical needs are shunted down the queue, increasing the risk of serious illness, even death from other health care issues - including mental health. There are other factors as well.

Our healthcare system is deeply under resourced as it is, without Covid. Moderating the flow of Covid infected folks (especially unvaccinated) is the only humane solution available. As Wing Man MAV suggested, either/or / extreme thinking will create too many unnecessary problems.

Hopefully, our less than intelligent authorities will realise that our health care system needs strong improvement. The smarter Party will realise this and make it an election pillar.

I didn't say let it rip, I said they have let it rip.

[madbluboy]

Also whenever I say the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it there is no need to preach to me about deaths and hospitalisations. I have stated numerous times that I'm pro vaccine and that they save lives. Our own lives.

[LP]

Vaccination does reduce transmissibility and most importantly, severity of symptoms.

This whole statement is 100% accurate!

[madbluboy]

Where's your data?